Krystine's FLR Podcast
My podcast is about my journey into the FLR (Female Led Relationship) lifestyle.
While my marriage looks mostly normal from the outside, I fully control my husband through the chastity device that I have his "manhood" locked in.
Follow along weekly as I bring you up to speed on where we are now, and how an outwardly vanilla life operates alongside a very kinky secret life!
Krystine's FLR Podcast
0119 Female Led Relationships: Embracing Chaos in Your FLR
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Hey there, fabulous listener! In this episode, we dive headfirst into our chaotic yet exhilarating journey of celebrating our New Year's Eve anniversary in the most unconventional way. We also chat about our podcast evolution and share our tales from the trenches of Female-Led Relationships (FLR) coaching. Plus, we've got some juicy stories about living in a lifestyle campground and embracing our creative side.
This episode is a must-listen if you're curious about navigating FLR dynamics, voiceover ventures, and unconventional community living. Whether you're looking for relationship coaching tips, interested in our swinger podcast roots, or fascinated by our experiences at a lifestyle campground, there's something here for everyone. We also touch on our collaboration with the Priory Society and Swingin' Along podcasts, so tune in to discover the beauty of adapting to life's surprises.
References:
1. Priority Society Podcast - Listen here
Questions:
1. What are the challenges and rewards of living in a lifestyle campground?
2. How can I introduce the concept of Female-Led Relationships to my partner?
3. What are some creative ways to celebrate unconventional anniversaries?
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How come I don't get headphones?
Speaker 2:I don't need, I'm just making sure that they work.
Speaker 1:This podcast is intended for mature audiences only If you are not 18 years of age or older.
Speaker 3:there are thousands of other podcasts you can listen to, and you can come back and visit us when you are 18. This podcast is meant solely for entertainment. We are not licensed doctors, lawyers or therapists. We simply have a fascination with the lifestyle and I'd love to share it with you and get your thoughts and opinions.
Speaker 1:Well, we're in a super secret location doing a review of 2020. Glad it's over, but first let's address some housekeeping issues. Oh, hey, my subbies here, whoop, whoop. I want to give a big shout out to all my twitter and tiktok subs oh, subs I like that word, but I digress links to all of those in the description my key holding service that I'm offering and everyone should join because it's fun. I have a contract. It's based on safety, fun and a secure way to explore your chastity fantasy. Hit me up if you have questions. Last but not least, I have had some interest in coaching. Let me explain. If you are interested in the FLR, or female led relationship, dynamic in your relationship and would like some help on how to present it or navigate your way through it, I can guide you on how to present it because, let me tell you, I was completely in the dark to all of this when I started this lifestyle and can maybe give you a different perspective on how to present it to your significant other, so that it isn't so overwhelming and scary. Correct feedback, because I would be interested in what type of information you would want in a course like that, or suggestions that you have that you think would be helpful in introducing this lifestyle to your significant other, or if you're already in it and just want some guidance on some bumpy areas you're encountering, which is exciting, because I love helping people, obviously, that's why this podcast exists, correct?
Speaker 2:So hit me up Contact information below Okay, so I just want to address that we were supposed to do this live.
Speaker 1:Oh, sorry, guys, guys, and the plans changed, and that's subject to happen when it comes to us yeah, the whole kids and mom in the house thing sometimes throws us for a loop and for the most part my friends are all vanilla right so we have to kind of be super sneaky about it right and then, in case you all didn't know, my subbie and I got married on new year's eve, which then led to an impromptu anniversary party along with the new year's party right so the guests of honor maybe had a little bit of obligation to be present.
Speaker 2:Right, we had planned on recording live at a hotel New Year's Eve and then we were tipped off that there was a surprise anniversary party that we probably should have been at New Year's Eve. So we scrapped the hotel plans and we were going to try to sneak in the live New Year's Eve. So we scrapped the hotel plans and we were going to try to sneak in the live New Year's Eve, but one thing led to another and that ship sailed, yeah. So then we were going to try to do it last night.
Speaker 3:Well, New Year's Day.
Speaker 2:Right. So if you're hearing this whenever, it would have been New Year's day evening, and again, one thing led to another and it just didn't that ship sailed so we're on the third ship now and it's not live, but we're getting some video for you and hopefully you enjoy it right. So what I'm thinking is, as I'm sitting here, because he's constantly thinking constantly, so I'm thinking that we could make this all nice and pretty looking and put it on your YouTube channel that might work too, yeah so we'll put it up and we'll leave it up for like a month or so, and if it gains traction, that's cool, if not, we'll take it down. I I don't know. We'll see how.
Speaker 1:I'm just thinking on my feet yep, and I mean I'm not opposed to the live option.
Speaker 2:It's kind of fun.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we might actually Plus, I love having my subby here. We may hit it up for another topic and do it live on Twitter, because it looks like from the poll that I did on Twitter, people would like to see.
Speaker 2:It was like 95 or something like that, wasn't it?
Speaker 1:And to the 5% that don't want to see what the hell I'm not really. I don't understand. I Something like that, wasn't it? And to the 5% that don't want to see what the hell, I'm not really.
Speaker 2:I don't understand, I'm kind of hurt, that's okay.
Speaker 1:Just kidding, I'm not for everyone, and that's okay, correct. So what is this episode going to be like? Episode 19 is a look at 2020 in review and kind of rewinding how all of this began.
Speaker 2:So I don't know how far back we should go. We actually most of this and for you listening, I'm like moving my hand back and forth between the mics and all our equipment set up. This was actually bought a couple years ago. We were going to do like a swingers podcast thing and we started out and we actually gained a couple of good friends in the swinger podcast community the Priority Society folks.
Speaker 1:Fucking amazing.
Speaker 2:Please, if you haven't listened to that podcast. Go listen to that podcast.
Speaker 1:Do it.
Speaker 2:It's fucking amazing.
Speaker 3:It is.
Speaker 2:And Chris and Karen from Swingin' Along have been super cool to us Very down to earth.
Speaker 1:Yeah, very Genuine, friendly yes.
Speaker 2:Genuine people, yeah, very genuine friendly. Yes, genuine people both.
Speaker 1:so those two podcasts absolutely go check them out because they're so much better than ours, but we'll get there we'll get there, um.
Speaker 2:So, anyways, we're going to do our own and and that just kind of petered out. Um, and most of this, this stuff was all packed in a suitcase, I think yeah, been a year and a half or so.
Speaker 1:I spent a lot of time in a suitcase.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Enter COVID In what March?
Speaker 1:March. Yeah, we were Texas.
Speaker 2:I think Right. So yeah, we were visiting Texas, yeah, and, and that whole toilet paper thing happened on our way back, which was kind of surreal.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 2:We did a road trip there and back.
Speaker 1:With the kids Right. It was a family trip.
Speaker 2:So we get back and they talk about okay, we're going to close school for one more day to figure things out, and then it was okay, we're going to extend it to the end of the week to figure things out. And then the kids never went back, yeah. And then in the meantime I get a phone call from my work my main work source at the time saying we're pretty much done until further notice. Enter panic, because that's pretty much our source of income for now. Um, because that's pretty much our source of income for now. Um, fast forward, well, not fast forward. I guess that following week and for like the next couple of months, we did just incredible deep dives into voiceover work Well, yeah. How can we earn money without leaving the house? Yeah, you know. And then that's all online stuff and I got to thinking, when we have the podcast equipment, and I actually had run across a blog about a nice lady who reads books for Audible in her closet and I thought, well, we have a closet.
Speaker 1:And the booth was boring.
Speaker 2:Correct, so we should post pictures of it somewhere or something. It's kind of a cool little booth.
Speaker 3:It is.
Speaker 1:We're the people under the stairs. Correct Literally.
Speaker 2:Exactly so put the booth together, got on Fiverr and ACX, audible and started doing some work, very cheap work, not paying bills work, but I mean you got to start somewhere. So we've been on fiber since then. And ACX although ACX has been kind of quiet. We have a lot of irons in the fire. It can get quite overwhelming. A lot of fucking irons in the fire. Real get quite overwhelming irons in the fire.
Speaker 1:Real sorry that might be part of the yeah so. But I mean, you know we're, we're doing what we can we're chugging along and we're real glad you guys are hanging out with us, right so um.
Speaker 2:We also are residents at a, we'll just say, lifestyle campground clothing, clothing optional. Clothing, optional lifestyle. There's just a ton of mix of people there.
Speaker 1:They're all fantastic, there's not a ton of people there there's just a big mix of people.
Speaker 2:Yep that's a good way to describe it, and we got to talking over the summer about revisiting the podcast situation and what would that look like and what would be our niche, what would kind of set us apart or set?
Speaker 1:her apart.
Speaker 2:It's all about me because it is all about her as it should be um. What would, what would, what could we do? That was unique and we started talking about the FLR situation.
Speaker 1:Um that we still very much are newbies in well, well, and I think my biggest thing, especially with the podcast, is I just remember the emotions and the things that I went through when you introduced all of this information to me. Right, I was fucking mind blown Like, seriously small town brain. That's what I had, and I'm not judging all small towns by any means, my town specifically. Very simple, this type of thing is more than likely unacceptable for the most part. So I just remember the emotions that I went through when you were introduced. Obviously I was very curious but who the hell do I talk to about it? I don't really have anybody to talk to about it. I don't know if anybody can hear that, but our super secret location has dogs. Sorry about it.
Speaker 3:It is what it is. Here we are.
Speaker 1:However, I wanted to present something to people that if you have questions, there's somewhere where you can go to find the answers and have somebody that is non-judgmental. Because I am the last person to judge anyone and I am fascinated by what makes people tick and what turns people on. I just find it interesting. Not everything is for me, the things I do probably aren't for everybody out there, but it's nice to have somebody where you can just hash out your questions and not feel like you're being judged for something that maybe turns you on.
Speaker 2:Right, right. So we started figuring out how that would look and how we would put something like that together, reached out to, um, some other sellers on fiverr to get some artwork put together and, man, we did what. We reached out to three different people, I think, and that was really hard to choose which one to take yeah, they did fantastic work and ridiculous and it's very reasonable.
Speaker 1:I would suggest, or I would recommend, fiverr for a lot of things.
Speaker 2:Yep absolutely.
Speaker 1:It's real hard on the erotic standpoint because they say they don't support it. But they kind of do in back doorway, no pun intended.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so it's kind of like a don't ask, don't tell, right, that's what it feels like anyways.
Speaker 1:Yeah, until something pops up where somebody maybe crosses a line that they feel is too much, and then all of a sudden you're tagged, they're tagged, they're removed, your gigs are getting taken down and and this has all been learning but if you're looking for artwork, for something, or I mean, it's a fantastic platform for all that stuff Um very reasonably cheap, reasonably priced reasonably priced.
Speaker 2:Um, very reasonably cheap and reasonably priced. Reasonably priced, yeah. Sometimes, though, you get what you pay for, true? So, um, from our experience, I would recommend like doing a deep dive on it's like we're doing a commercial for fiber. We're not sponsored and no, they're side note yeah, um, if you're, if you are going to do anything, if you are going to do anything, if you're going to do anything on Fiverr, I recommend doing a deep dive on their profile, meaning look at all of their examples, look through their feedback, all that stuff.
Speaker 1:Yes, Um, it's like everything I say in here do your own research, Right right, right right.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, we're very fortunate in in what we've gotten so far for um background music for things, artwork for things.
Speaker 1:My subbie is also a fantastic writer and he dabbles with the music a little bit and does very well. So I'm lucky on that aspect because he knows how this whole podcast music production goes, and the only thing that sucks is there's just not enough hours in the day, with him doing his full time job and then having to help me with this as I learn.
Speaker 2:Enter control.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Fuck, oh god, I fucking love doing control. I love it. It's so much fun to do.
Speaker 1:Controls are other podcasts.
Speaker 2:By the way, right Control is a erotic drama loosely based on real events right, so I love doing them um, I love putting things together. It's, it's an undertaking yeah, for sure and this episode of control coming up is it.
Speaker 1:It's a big one, yeah, big.
Speaker 2:It's over a half hour isn't it?
Speaker 1:I think so.
Speaker 2:Almost 45, something like that.
Speaker 1:It's a great. It's huge. It's pretty good. It's a great one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so that is in the pipeline. If any of you are Control fans, it is coming and I sincerely apologize for not getting stuff out.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of work that goes into it, because we want to give you quality material. Yes, we don't want to put shit out there, right?
Speaker 2:I don't want to slap something together because if that was the case, you know we'd have five or six control episodes out, but they wouldn't be. I want people listening with their earbuds to actually be in the story. Yeah, you know, to hear the sounds, to feel the things actually be in the story. Yeah, you know, to hear the sounds to feel the things um, I just like putting I felt the things reading.
Speaker 1:This next one she did, by the way, was fucking different things.
Speaker 2:It was so good okay, so that brings us up pretty much to now and, um, because I do all the behind the mic stuff and the production stuff, I keep an eye on numbers and stats and all that kind of stuff and holy shit.
Speaker 1:You guys fucking rock, by the way.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we had no idea that that many people would be.
Speaker 1:It blows my mind that there's that many people out there that want to hear what I have to say and I fucking appreciate each and every one of you Seriously want to hear what.
Speaker 2:I have to say, and I fucking appreciate each and every one of you seriously and I think you were telling me today about a message you got on twitter we were put on or your podcast was on. What is it was a key holding no it was some mansion oh, uh, please pause so somebody had put us, mentioned us in a post on chastity mansion. That's what it was right. So there was a pretty major spike, like on Wednesday and Thursday like five and 600. Well, Wednesday was something like 900.
Speaker 1:Holy fuck you guys yeah.
Speaker 2:You're awesome. So, um, yeah, that was really cool to see. And now we know why that happened, because it was out of nowhere of like. You know, we're hovering at whatever number it is each day and it's still blown away by that number.
Speaker 3:Absolutely.
Speaker 2:And then Wednesday it just went through the fucking roof and wow yeah, so welcome Chastity Mansion people.
Speaker 1:And thanks for coming.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean thanks, hopefully over and over.
Speaker 1:Yes, I mean, that's my preference.
Speaker 2:Right, so that's where we are now, basically, we're sitting at a secret location.
Speaker 1:Trying to make up for the fact that we didn't do a live. We'll provide some video.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Just want you to know how much we appreciate all of you. That's where we are.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is really fun to do, I love having him here.
Speaker 1:It's so much fun to talk about things with him here, right Love it. So what are our plans for?
Speaker 2:2021 and beyond To be fucking awesome. Well, that's a given, wow. So you talked about the possibility of an FLR Coaching, coaching and or course of some sort. Figuring out how to get a price structure for that right and what it would include what it would entail and that's probably going to take a little bit more time because, again, we don't want to just slap something together and throw it out there like we want it to be useful, like useful to people well, and I would love to hear some feedback, absolutely from people who have some ideas like if this is something you're tiptoeing into.
Speaker 1:What would you like to know?
Speaker 2:what would you? Like to hear about like beyond what we do weekly right you know what we, what we put together weekly, what she amazingly does weekly um. We hope that that's of value too, and like there's no price, obviously, for a podcast, that's just something we enjoy doing I do together. I like the sound of my own voice but maybe a little um, a deeper dive into things or or topic specific kind of things or I guess I don't know.
Speaker 1:I have gotten a couple messages on only fans, which I sincerely appreciate, um, especially from caged for pegging, which is the one that we did on pegging last week, and we are also going to touch back on that a little bit now that my subbie is here, um, but I have gotten some ideas from people on things that they would like to hear about. Um, I think we could probably do an episode on ball torture. That would be quite fun, um, but I love hearing ideas of things you guys want to hear about. Again, it's just my perspective and my opinion, or things that we practice in our lifestyle and or in our relationship. If there's things that interest you or just questions that you have that you'd like me to answer, I would love to hear about it.
Speaker 2:And because, like you say, you know everybody's different. There are so many different angles to things and situations for things and perspectives of things or whatever that we don't have or we haven't come across or whatever. And that's where having a little community of people, listeners, whatever, having people talking is great because you really get all the different perspectives, and Talking is great because you really get all the different perspectives and deep dives or intricate little you know things to think about or whatever, and it's good to try to cover all of that and I again, I'm new to a lot.
Speaker 1:I mean, I've been doing, we've been practicing the lifestyle we practice for a few years now, but I love learning new things from you all. I mean, I want to hear about what makes you tick. I am fascinated by that and it also prompts me to do my own research and have talking points on here. I just love it. It's I don't know, it's just so interesting to me because it's like there's this whole big world that I didn't even know existed until I met him. This whole big world that I didn't even know existed until I met him.
Speaker 2:So I want to learn more.
Speaker 1:I love learning.
Speaker 2:To be fair, when she met me, all I basically knew was, like, the urges that I had, but also, just, you know, the porn site version of some of this stuff and maybe some blog post versions of this. Like, the more that we've grown, the more I've wrapped my head around what my role is in the relationship.
Speaker 1:Well, and from the research that I've done too. I mean, I have found some blog posts and things like that that have been helpful. On the emotional aspect. I think initially when this gets introduced to people, they automatically think about the physical aspect and the play aspect of it, but people never really look at the fact that I have never trusted a man that I've been with more than I trust him. I have never been in a more healthy relationship, in my opinion, in my entire life. I mean there's so much more to this dynamic than just there being a cage on his cock and me being in control. I will say that's my favorite part of our relationship. But there's so much more to it, the emotional connection that we have. I mean, I've never had a relationship where I am so stimulated by just his touch, like it's constantly just being it's almost like a 24 seven edging. I mean, it's another topic I would like to talk about is edging, and prostate massage.
Speaker 2:If anybody has any tips on that, it is literally um foreplay 24 seven. Yeah, it's fantastic it really is, and this relationship isn't like any better or worse than a vanilla relationship. It's just, it's our thing and it works for us, and maybe it works for you, or maybe an aspect of it works for you Right.
Speaker 1:You customize it to what works for you.
Speaker 2:That's what's nice about it, yeah.
Speaker 1:There is no set in stone right or wrong, other than consent and a safe word.
Speaker 2:Right and trust.
Speaker 1:And trust.
Speaker 2:And communication.
Speaker 1:Fine, you win. There's more, there's one upper.
Speaker 2:What a great set of values for, say, a course.
Speaker 1:I like it. Look where you're going with that. You should think about that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, anyways, but we digress, yes, often so.
Speaker 1:Oh, so should we move into the pegging recap.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we can go into that. Okay, I think we covered enough.
Speaker 1:So if anybody didn't listen to my episode last week, first of all, shame on you. Second of all, some of this may not make sense, but I am going to recap a little bit. This episode was based off of a message that I received from one of my favorite fans on OnlyFans.
Speaker 2:And Twitter. He's on Twitter too.
Speaker 1:Oh yes, Sorry, I guess I'm so focused on my OnlyFans. I think that's it. He is very respectful. He's such a good boy.
Speaker 2:I get to know some of the things that she talks about, or whatever she comes to me for.
Speaker 1:Yeah, sometimes I need advice. I'm still a little new to this and he's a little bit more experienced Not much, but a little bit more experienced than I am with some of the things Right and because we have the communication.
Speaker 2:That's a huge part because, like we keep saying, there's a lot of shit going on, yeah, and if we aren't talking about it and we're bouncing things off each other for whatever, things can go bad quickly.
Speaker 3:Yes, and in a bad way.
Speaker 2:So yes, I get to know most, I think, of what she's doing.
Speaker 1:He's like my best friend. I pretty she's doing.
Speaker 2:He's like my best friend I pretty much tell you everything that's so sweet. Okay, on to pegging onto the pegging.
Speaker 1:Yay, pe99 yes, yes, that's a lot of pe990. So some of the some of the things that we discussed last week, I took a guess at what I thought his answers would be. So the first question for you is he is interested in your journey up to trying it and how it feels for you?
Speaker 2:Okay, I'll take the feels for you as both physical and emotional.
Speaker 1:Yep, that's what I did, good call, I'll split that up I like it.
Speaker 2:My journey, I think it, I this the pegging specifically, not necessarily the dominant female, but the pegging specifically. I think. I probably stumbled onto it on a porn site, to be honest, and you know, this popped up and I saw it and I hmm.
Speaker 1:Interesting.
Speaker 2:What's this all about now? And I think I just kind of went down that road privately because I was in a marriage previous to this amazing situation we have here, and that marriage fell apart for other reasons.
Speaker 3:Honestly like there was, it was toxic. That could be six other episodes.
Speaker 2:Right. So the relationship I had right after that one, I had a brief relationship, we'll say that, where I had shared my thoughts on that and that woman really took it and ran with it. It had been something that actually she had done in the past or thought about also. So I was like um, very quickly introduced to that whole situation, um, and really enjoyed it and that kind of fell apart too, Um, and I think it evolved in the couple of relationships that I had between my divorce and the amazing wife I have right now To me, really understanding not just the physical part of it but the emotional part of it and what it emotionally means, because, honestly, it emotionally means more to me than I think, than the physical part. I think that, um, it's the, the, it's, it's absolutely a show of dominance, damn straight, absolutely a show of submission, um, but it's. It's like I don't want to say it's a gift that I'm giving, but it's, it's not a gift, it's a I'm giving my body to you.
Speaker 1:It's almost like I think a gift is a good way. It's not, maybe a gift isn't the right word, but it's a way to show his true submission to me, I think.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, it's absolutely that. Um, it's, it's, yeah, it's very much more emotional than it is physical. Physical is pretty hot and and physical.
Speaker 1:Why don't you shut that shit off?
Speaker 2:Sorry about that.
Speaker 1:Physical is pretty hot. Chicks with dicks are fucking hot as shit.
Speaker 2:Physical is also pretty uncomfortable sometimes, to be honest, um, but the uncomfortable part melts away because of the power of the connection that's going on at the time well, and I think the uncomfortable part, physically a lot comes with until you can relax because your initial brain reaction is to clench up.
Speaker 1:This isn't normal. This isn't you know, the direction things come out this hole to be honest.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:And I think once you can really relax, and I think that's why maybe people suggest you having a drink, and that could be why I ended up drunken in the shower when it happened for me.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But I think the initial aspect of it is you just need to relax and get in the right mindset and allow your body to just go with it, Because once you relax and things kind of stretch out or whatever, I mean you can go to town like normal.
Speaker 2:Right, and I caution that. Maybe a drink or maybe two tops the last thing you want to do during this, in my opinion mine too right, the last thing you want to be is like sloppy, fucking drunk. Yeah, um, that is a road to a bad place so that's a disaster waiting to happen right so maybe that's why I was in the shower.
Speaker 1:I was prepared for the disaster maybe I'm not fucking sure how that happened. I just know I was sloppy drunk and I would not recommend and it's probably never going to happen again. I wouldn't say that, I wouldn't say never, okay, fair enough Anything is possible.
Speaker 2:Probably not by me, though. Probably not, anyway, I kind of like that actually. Back at the ranch I hate that and like that at the same time. Welcome to my world.
Speaker 1:So yeah, that's kind of the answer to question one right. Right, and on that aspect too, uh, did you ever experience playing? With yourself in that area prior to actually having a strap-on?
Speaker 2:yes, inside um a couple of times. But anybody who has experienced or experience, anybody who has experimented with this, knows it's kind of difficult to do it on your own, correct? So I mean it's possible there are toys and things like that that you can use to experiment on your own right um it was just kind of difficult to do and then, um, I kind of had the obligatory feel stupid about it thing afterwards and well, and like when I it was asked how it was presented to me and like what my first thoughts were.
Speaker 1:That's what I talked about on the last one, and it was. You know, if you like this, then you must be gay. And first of all, there's nothing fucking wrong with being gay right, at all right second of all, that's such a closed-minded view on it your body is your body and whatever brings you pleasure I should preface by saying within legal limits- because, there are things that people do that are illegal and just wrong, but I don't think it should be judged if there are things that you like with your body just because you like pegging, it's just another form of intimacy, in my opinion, or, in my case, dominance oh yeah, intimacy, I love that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't think that, but that was like my first reaction, because that is how I was programmed growing up that if you not for females, of course, only for males. If males like to put things in their butt, then obviously they're gay, and I don't believe that. I believe that you can enjoy that, and even if you enjoy it from another male, it's a form of intimacy that doesn't I?
Speaker 2:don't think you have to have a label. Yeah, I love that word. That's absolutely what it is. It's intimacy yes. Yeah, it's a, it's a connection between two human beings no matter their gender, in my opinion, right, no, that's a great point. I love that.
Speaker 1:I did touch on because also like the first time that we tried it, because initially, when it was presented to me, my first thought also was what if I get shit on? And I know I had said there's things that you can do to prepare for that. Some of the things I didn't even think of. But I mean, you can give yourself an enema if this is Now. Obviously, this isn't always something that's planned. Sometimes it comes up impromptu.
Speaker 2:And, to be honest, probably not in our house, but Well, I mean, we plan things all the time. That and they don't work out Right. So if you're able to plan it and it's in your future, that evening or whatever, yes, there are things you could probably do, so it's in your future that evening or whatever. Yes, there are things you could probably do. Things that you eat, things that you drink Drink a lot of water.
Speaker 1:There are, I mean people give themselves an enema.
Speaker 2:Right right.
Speaker 1:I have never I mean I haven't researched the things that can be done, but I know there are things that can be done.
Speaker 2:Can I confess something? Yeah, and I think I told you about this anyways. Maybe that, depending on the type of shower head that you have, oh, this is actually pretty hot, depending on the type of shower head that you have, if there's a jet, and depending on the drain that you have, because you don't really know what's going to come out of there.
Speaker 1:Yeah Well, you probably shouldn't put shit on your drain, but I mean, it's a drain.
Speaker 2:It goes to the drain place, yeah.
Speaker 1:The drain place.
Speaker 2:Is that the technical term? I mean in architectural terms maybe we don't know that the drain place Right, you can do a little bit of a cleaning that way too. Just be careful with that, because again you don't know what's really going to come out of there. Plus, it feels really good yeah.
Speaker 1:I know, when we shower together, sometimes I Well, I prefer to spray the jet at his cage, but that's just my personal preference.
Speaker 2:So that's all I have to say on that.
Speaker 1:I think yeah and I did address to like the first time. Just know it's probably going to be awkward as hell, and that's where having a good relationship with the person you're doing it with, or being comfortable, is going to be a huge part of it right, and that's where the intimacy comes in.
Speaker 2:Correct, because if you can be deeply intimate with someone, like really open and transparent, and, um, you shouldn't, you should, there shouldn't be anything that you can, um, there shouldn't be anything that you can't say to the other person. So if it's a comfort level thing, if it's a messy situation thing or whatever, um, you have to communicate with that person.
Speaker 1:You have to go with the flow, no matter what, and kind of have a sense of humor with it too, oh yeah. Which this kind of covers. The next question was any advice we would have for newbies.
Speaker 2:So that kind of covers that we're kind of moving into that yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So I mean you just have to, I don't know. I would say, be comfortable with the person that you're with obviously sub for the first time or whatever. Just know that each man has a different reaction to having something put in their ass. Like I was initially really upset because he did not have a boner and I was like, oh my God, I'm not fucking turning him on. You know I felt like I was failing and you have to know the human body, again, does crazy things. Some men are able to hold an erection and they will come with a fully erect penis while you peg them. Other men do not.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:And some men even come while limp. Oh yeah, well that's dripping.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Basically that's dripping Right or having having an's dripping.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Basically that's dripping Right or having having an orgasm. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And this may sound like I'm a complete idiot and like you should have known that or whatever, but I mean, this was all a new experience to me but. I just remember thinking oh my God, I'm not turning him on, he's not hard.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 1:Just know you can be very turned on without an erection.
Speaker 2:That's the statement right there that I was going to say, that um, you're speaking to my male friends. Um, your dick isn't necessarily like a turkey button pop when you're turned on, you know.
Speaker 1:Um and everybody's different.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it isn't. You just have to be cool about things.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know you don't, it's, it's you don't want to put a lot of pressure on each person, Right? And if, ladies, if your guy isn't hard, it's okay. That doesn't mean he's not turned on. He's probably spinning in his head like he's never been spun in his head before, just from what's going on at the time his head before, just from what's going on at the time, plus sometimes when you're more advanced in years.
Speaker 1:I love you. Um, sometimes things don't work as quickly as they used to. They still function and, like I've said before, I'm not opposed to popsicle sticks and duct tape if it ever comes to that I'm only 50 I know. But I just saying just know that everybody's body. Everybody's. Well, that's where you belong, with a little cage on your little wiener. Ok, I'll find my young bull in the pasture next door.
Speaker 2:Yes, please.
Speaker 1:So everybody's body is different, don't Girls, don't Women, ladies, whatever you want to be called, do not take it to heart. That is where open communication comes into, because, like the first time, I was real traumatized but I was comfortable enough with him to be like what the fuck? And he explained I don't know, it's just the way my body works. I'm extremely turned on right now, like you are so fucking hot.
Speaker 2:I can't even even explain where I'm at, and turned on is up here right, not necessarily down here well, and now it's been locked up so long it's like fuck, that ain't getting, it doesn't even oh well, except at night sometimes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's my favorite we covered that a few episodes again too, but yeah whatever free willy, for a while it remembers how to work correct the last question that he had and I kind of answered it last week too. But how do you think pegging adds to our dynamic as a female-led relationship, couple, or, um, just our dynamic in general, whether it's with the chastity or whatever? I will say real quick that I didn't say last week it is fucking hot to peg with a cage on the, the lock, clicking on the cage it's like her favorite sound in the world if I could make that my fucking ringtone I would oh my god, I love it, that's great.
Speaker 2:Um, I think we've talked around this during this whole part of the podcast about it's gosh. I go back to the word intimacy.
Speaker 1:I know it's a fantastic word.
Speaker 2:Now again, you don't have to be into pegging to be intimate, Correct.
Speaker 1:It's just another level of it.
Speaker 2:It's just a different level, right. Because, again, like we say over and over and over, everyone's different. So if, if pegging is something that the two of you are interested in exploring to, to explore that level of intimacy, then go for it. If pegging is not your thing, you're not going to be right, you're not going to reach that intimacy, it's going to be awkward, it's going to be frustrating and there's no room for intimacy in frustrating.
Speaker 3:Correct.
Speaker 2:You know. So it's something that you as a couple, explore together. You tiptoe into, if you've not done it already. You tiptoe into what it is physically, what it is emotionally.
Speaker 1:I think you really have to get the pre-programmed thoughts out of your head too, because even initially, the first time I did it, it was it was in the back of my mind. You really have to change your perspective and focus on the positives or on what you're enjoying about it. And, like I said, the second I strapped that thing on. Fuck, it's like instant your mind. I'm going to do what I like with you and that's it.
Speaker 2:I'm fanning myself to the listeners. Sorry about that. That's the dynamic that I love, yeah.
Speaker 1:I don't second guess myself, I don't overthink things, which is a normal reality for me. Sometimes I'm very anxious lately. I don't know what the hell's going on there, but I put that strap on and all of that just melts away. And it's just the task at hand, and I'm in control right and this is what we're going to do right, it's um, and then and again.
Speaker 2:That's the intimacy thing part too. You know um, you just you are both um, chucking away all your second thoughts and all of your whatever, and just being in the moment yep, get, get rid of the pre-programmed if you have that in the back of your mind. Right, be in that moment and really focus on and accept where your partner is. Your husband, your wife both of you understand where each other are and really appreciate that they're in that place and here's my other.
Speaker 1:I mean, as far as it adds to our dynamic of our relationship. It's a fantastic addition to our dynamic. It is not a necessity, no, it is something we both enjoy, correct, um I? I would hope that it will happen more regularly in our future. It really isn't something that is easily attained right now, Logistically it's a nightmare. The more I do what I do with this podcast or my OnlyFans or whatever else I decide to delve into, it's going to come out, and that has been a huge process for me, because my friends are my family. Honestly, I'm not close to my family. Obviously, my mom lives with me, but other than that, they're my family. So it was very hard for me to grasp the concept of what happens when they find out about this and what if they don't like me anymore into this lifestyle that is surrounded by vanilla people or vanilla lifestyle or whatever you do you If it makes you happy and they liked you before you were into this. There is no reason they should not like you after. If they don't agree with or like you because of the things you choose to do in the privacy of your home fuck, they're not supposed to be in your life. There are better people out there, right, who can be supportive, no matter what right I am lucky I do have, like my best friend knows, a good portion right of our lifestyle and she is still my best friend she's still my person other than my husband, obviously I don't think that she's listened to the podcast yet at all. I don't think so, but she's even if she did even if she did listen to it, she would still be my friend. She would still treat me the same. It wouldn't be any different. I just don't the biggest thing don't let people make you feel bad for something that you enjoy, right if it's within legal guidelines or what you know what I? Mean like for sure obviously there's things out there that people are doing that are just unacceptable, right, but I just, if that's what we do as a couple is our thing right?
Speaker 2:we don't have to really answer to anybody else about anything that we do as a couple and if people who like us before they knew right before. They knew this and and they don't like us afterwards. They never really liked us in the first place, you know I have not changed as a person on my day-to-day life.
Speaker 1:I am. I have grown oh, for sure I am far less judgmental than I was in the past, I don't. I have a whole different perspective on you. Know, if somebody's a asshole to me at the store, my first thought now is man, I hope whatever they're going through gets better, because obviously it's something that's affecting them right where old me would have been like you wouldn't believe this fucking dick I ran into at the store Right. Everybody has their own battles, I just think.
Speaker 2:I heard something great this week and it might have been on it. It's not TikTok, because I'm not on that much anymore. Might have been a Twitter, probably a Twitter. I forget the quote is hurt people.
Speaker 3:Hurt people, mm hmm forget, um.
Speaker 2:The quote is hurt people, hurt people, um. So it's almost better to um. Maybe not, you don't have to love on them, um, but you just have to understand that they're coming from a place that you're not coming from, you know be kind yeah, so be kind and and be you unapologetically right so so that's where we're at with that, I think that covers most of the pegging recap to get your input on it. Guys, if you want to contact me, I'll put a contact in the description or something like that.
Speaker 1:Or you can contact through me and I'll have him Right. However you want to do it, I can pass it on.
Speaker 2:I'm more than happy to talk about anything that we haven't covered here, questions we didn't he is a fantastic resource.
Speaker 1:His presentation of all of this lifestyle to me when I was new to it was like perfect, if I could write a textbook like and that could simply be because you knew me from an instant. We had that connection.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:And you knew how to approach me.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:You have to know your partner and know how to present it in a perspective that makes them understand.
Speaker 2:I think that's a great idea for an upcoming episode.
Speaker 3:I like it.
Speaker 2:We should do that we won't go down that rabbit hole right now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we tend to trail off.
Speaker 2:We can certainly talk to the people who are just thinking about this, just getting into this, wanting to get into this, and maybe haven't brought it up to their significant other yet or have and it's not ended up. Well, guys, don't go down the path of quote how do I get my wife to do this? That is the wrong mentality and we can talk about that more.
Speaker 1:Where's the dogs? Yeah, the dogs are here, Somebody's here we can talk about that more on the episode too. I'd be happy to talk more about that. I think that would be good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, other upcoming episodes. I think we have a dog.
Speaker 1:That has got lots to say.
Speaker 2:real quick he is not happy right now. Um, we have an interview or two coming up, I think. Honestly, going back to the beginning, the priority society folks have agreed to um have a an episode with us, which is exciting because we love them I seriously, you guys.
Speaker 1:Their podcast was yeah one of the ones that I just binged the shit out of. They're fantastic, it's funny.
Speaker 2:It has absolutely.
Speaker 1:I mean the information, information overload, and it's good quality information and they legit, are just trying to help people. And Chris and Karen are the same way, and Chris and Karen, I think they have kids in their house.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so they're similar to us actually. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:And I mean she's had things in her life with her job and things like that.
Speaker 2:Very similar things. Yep, yep.
Speaker 1:They're both fantastic, love them both.
Speaker 2:Yep, I spent like an hour and a half or maybe two hours on the phone with Mr Priory.
Speaker 1:They are hours on the phone with um mr priori they are fantastic.
Speaker 2:What a nice guy. They are just sexy people across the board. They are very. They're fun to watch too. They have great. They have a great twitter but we digress, you should follow them. Yeah, we digress, it's good stuff it is priori p-r-i-o-r-y society go love, love, love. That pretty much brings us to the end.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think that's about it.
Speaker 2:There's other aspects of all of this that we're talking about in upcoming episodes, so stay tuned for that.
Speaker 1:We'll ramble on some more next week.
Speaker 2:I don't know what next week is yet.
Speaker 1:It's a surprise for all of us. Let's get some feedback. What would you guys like to hear about next?
Speaker 2:week. Hit me up. Yeah, hit her on the Twitter. Hit her in the Gmail.
Speaker 1:Don't hit me in real life, though I don't like it.
Speaker 2:Hit her on the TikTok.
Speaker 1:Never hit her in person.
Speaker 2:I'm the one that gets hit. We've established this, our dynamic. Yeah, absolutely, send her a DM on whatever platform. All the links are going to be in the description below, and yeah, Thanks for hanging out with us.
Speaker 1:This one's a little bit longer, which makes up for last week's being a little bit shorter. Right, sorry about the fumble on the live. We'll make it up to you guys, I promise I don't think we have to apologize.
Speaker 2:Shit happens and I think. I think people understand that. Folks, shit just happens and whatever is whatever, but we digress anyways have a fantastic week, you guys, thanks for listening. We love you thank you for having me.
Speaker 1:I love having you do you it's so much fun.
Speaker 2:We're so naughty most of the time have a great week, guys we come in.
