EP: 0402 - Female Led Relationships - Locktober Week Two

Starting off, we reminisce on our initial foray into the world of chastity cages. With the struggle of two hours of distance between us, we tested out different devices, from plastic to silicone, to metal cages. Spoiler alert, they didn’t work as expected! We also delve into the honest, raw conversations we shared, and how this experience highlighted the immense importance of trust and communication in our relationship. We even found that taking a much-needed break for healing had its own valuable lessons.

Here's where it gets interesting. Picture us navigating a TSA security checkpoint while in a chastity device - a story so bizarre, it’s almost unbelievable. We give it to you straight, from having to explain the situation to the curious TSA supervisor, to the subsequent self-reflection that led to a mental shift in our perception of chastity. This unanticipated situation not only tested our ability to advocate for ourselves but also strengthened the trust in our relationship. Reflecting on this, we discuss the practicalities and the potential hurdles of wearing chastity devices in public spaces. Tune in to our candid conversation - we guarantee it’s a tale worth hearing.

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Transcript

0:00:05 - Speaker 1
Welcome back. Guess who's here? 

0:00:41 - Speaker 2
I am here once again because it's our podcast. 

0:00:47 - Speaker 1
I don't like this new development. 

0:00:51 - Speaker 2
No, truly, it's your podcast. I know it is. I get to be here and I get to help with all the things, because I thoroughly enjoy all of this. 

0:01:00 - Speaker 1
Sometimes he's long winded, though, so if you guys get sick of hearing him email me. Say listen, no, tell him to shut the fuck up, would you? 

0:01:07 - Speaker 2
You've all fought so hard for me to get here. Why would you? Why, why, housekeeping, housekeeping. 

0:01:14 - Speaker 1
What do we got Housekeeping? We have our ladies group. That will be this week. Yes, it will be October 12th. This will be just my ladies and we will be discussing how things are going in your October journey, if you're participating I know some of you participate all the time, like October Anyway, so it's like no big deal so we will be just discussing October, maybe different tips and tricks for if there are new participants in the group. So that will start at 7pm central time and the link is provided in Patreon. 

If you are a member of my Patreon, you have access to the Zoom link. I do no longer record them because there was not a big demand and I think more people are just comfortable having it just be a thing with the ladies. So no longer recording them. But if you want to join, you just join my Patreon and you get the Zoom link, usually the day of which is fine because it's a fresh link and whatever. 

0:02:35 - Speaker 2
That's totally fine. 

0:02:36 - Speaker 1
So the day of and this one, I should be back in Minnesota for that one. So if you are interested in meeting some ladies who live the female and dynamic and participate in Locktober or maybe don't, whatever Feel free to join us again 7 pm Central Time Thursday, October 12th. And this one will kind of be focused on Locktober, but it will just kind of be a check-in and see how everything's going for everyone. So, if you're interested, join us. Mm-hmm, love it, love it. We are going to. Well, it's Locktober. 

It is this is week two Yep of. 

0:03:16 - Speaker 2
Locktober, the season of ungiving. 

0:03:19 - Speaker 1
Yes, we're going to talk about our journey Mm-hmm, and if you've listened to previous episodes, you've probably heard this, so it may sound similar. However, we have to throw out the TSA story and if you're new here, this might be new to you, and you know, right to search for the old episode about it, right? 

0:03:38 - Speaker 2
so we're gonna kind of Put all the stuff in the mixing pot here and and talk about the whole works and we will kind of give you. 

0:03:45 - Speaker 1
I mean a lot has changed since we started. 

0:03:48 - Speaker 2
Mm-hmm. 

0:03:48 - Speaker 1
So when we started Chastity- starting there. We lived two hours away from each other. 

0:03:53 - Speaker 2
We did, we weren't married. 

0:03:55 - Speaker 1
We'd only been together for what? 

0:03:57 - Speaker 2
three months, right, and Okay, if we're gonna start mm-hmm, let's go all the way to the very first thing right what's? That Well, I I at the time was a big tumbler kind of guy, right, and I'm looking for all the things because I've I've come across a woman who is on board with the things. Right now I want to. It wasn't easy to get their ladies either. 

0:04:21 - Speaker 1
Don't let them fool you. 

0:04:23 - Speaker 2
No, it wasn't, and there's. It gonna be a whole, there's a whole other whole mother no a whole other. 

0:04:30 - Speaker 1
Mm-hmm. 

0:04:31 - Speaker 2
I am not even getting on my soapbox about that. Nope, you're not. Continue, right, I went about the early part terribly. There's a whole other podcast on that and we will talk About that and get get deep into what not to do. Yep, like what I did. 

0:04:45 - Speaker 1
Well, I mean it worked, for us it did. 

0:04:48 - Speaker 2
It was a little overwhelming, I did smooth out, but but you know again, there's no whole concept or hold it happened, how it happened how it was supposed to for us, right, but we got to. My intention at the time was to be helpful, right. Little did I know I was Topping from the bottom In in a level. 

I really was right for some things, but however, I ran across my very first post of a cock cage. Yes, I'm like holy fuck. I've never seen this Like. This was my very first experience with this. I've never seen this. I need to share this with my beautiful woman. 

0:05:29 - Speaker 1
Mm-hmm I. 

0:05:31 - Speaker 2
Took a screenshot, threw it in the old texturama, shot it off to her. Her response was Fuck Yes!!, and off to the races. 

0:05:40 - Speaker 1
We went yes, and it was not easy. Nope, like I said, we were two hours away. 

0:05:45 - Speaker 2
Mm-hmm, and let's speak to that experience for everybody. Right, you're so excited because what you've seen on social media, it's going to be just like that, and I think we ordered a cage that day, and I think it was. 

0:05:58 - Speaker 1
I Think I went straight for metal, but I think we also ordered some. Well, obviously we ordered some silicone ones, because we did plastic we had a black plastic one. 

0:06:08 - Speaker 2
Yeah, we did one, maybe two silicone ones, I don't remember and then we did a metal, but I think that the metal came after the plastic, because I wore the plastic for a little bit and that didn't work. 

0:06:20 - Speaker 1
No, because it smells right. 

0:06:22 - Speaker 2
And then I tried the silicone and that didn't stay in place and it smells and it's smell. And then we went to the metal one. But it wasn't the metal one we use these days. No, it was the fully enclosed metal ones that we thought would be fantastic. 

0:06:36 - Speaker 1
Oh, that one will rip your dick right off. 

0:06:38 - Speaker 2
Yes, which ended up rusting. Mm-hmm and scraping mm-hmm. So two things to not have involved in your chest in a journey Mm-hmm right, yes, so that was the beginning of those things. Right, a lot of experimenting and and we expect that, like, if you're listening to this and you're new at this, do your experimenting and it's okay, right, and it will be overwhelming. 

Right, it will be over well but, but, as a couple talk about it, mm-hmm, you know, the, the, the male you have to share all the things with, with, with the beautiful woman involved. You know, because if this is going to work, it needs to work for you. Yes, right, if you're in an active job, like I have been for years and years, you're going to need something that is gonna roll with all of that and maybe I mean your journey is your own. 

0:07:32 - Speaker 1
Maybe you don't wear it like I. Specifically, there was somebody that I was. Well, I didn't really hold the key, but I, we talked about it and you know, working out at the gym. 

0:07:43 - Speaker 2
I mean that's to each their own. If that doesn't work and I I totally get that right. I wouldn't want to be if this is something you want to do? You have to find the, the combination of the fit and the material and the schedule and all of that. You have to hammer all of that out and figure it out, because this is life, is not a porn, mm-hmm. You know this is regular daily driver stuff that if this is the journey you want to be on, you have to communicate all this stuff out. 

0:08:12 - Speaker 1
Yeah, but let's get back on track, because we never worked out then well, we well, I mean your job was labor. Is though, yeah, I mean, you're up on your knees, as we should, totally figure it out as we went that this is not gonna work. 

0:08:24 - Speaker 2
And this does work, yeah, but maybe in a different way. Yep, you know Yep. So so we went through all of that and and honestly, still we're going through that. Yeah you know, yep, we're talking about ordering a new cage, which we really need to do, but we're still I don't know if it's negotiating or or what you'd call it, but we're still talking about what is going to work for for me. You know, to keep this on, look, you know, 24-7. Mm-hmm, that's, that's our goal. 

0:08:53 - Speaker 1
Well, and for our weekly mention of our friends Judy and Steve, that cage is my goal. Who not? Okay, wait, let me rephrase. Let me, let me rephrase that I'm not and not the Prince Albert. 

0:09:06 - Speaker 2
Yeah, I don't know if I'm there. Steve, you're a little bit more of a man than I am, I think that isn't the case. 

0:09:12 - Speaker 1
I mean there is, I'm not, I'm not there to Making that happen, so but I do really like that cage and they, they do come without the Prince Albert. 

0:09:24 - Speaker 2
So age is fantastic. Yes, I do love that one. 

0:09:27 - Speaker 1
Yes, okay, continue on. I just had to do my weekly reference to our friends Judy, and it's going to be a new part of the podcast. 

0:09:33 - Speaker 2
Yeah, judy and Steve's, buckle up guys. 

0:09:40 - Speaker 1
Oh yeah, I forget where I was we were talking about the different cages, we found one that worked for us yeah, that moves with you and that you know works with you, and we went through a lot to get there. 

0:09:50 - Speaker 2
My whole point in all of that is that you have to have the communication going. Yes, you know you have to talk about these things and and be comfortable to talk about these things right and it's okay if you jump right in and say, fuck yes, and just dive in. 

0:10:02 - Speaker 1
Just make sure you're communicating along the way. 

0:10:04 - Speaker 2
Yes yes, but this is about us, hey if it works right away for you and you're on and you're like, let's fucking go great. Yes, you know, we're not saying that every journey is going to be months and years of experimentation and sometimes it would work right off the bat. 

0:10:20 - Speaker 1
Not for us Again, everybody's different and that's okay, yep, but for us specifically, get back on track, man. 

0:10:28 - Speaker 2
It's been a journey right, it has been a journey, and I think that early on. So we've been doing this for how long? 

0:10:35 - Speaker 1
Well, we've been together for nine years and we started three months in, yeah, so it's been off and on, it hasn't? 

0:10:40 - Speaker 2
solidly been nine years. Right, we'll just say eight. Yeah, you know. So we've been doing this full time pretty much since for about eight years. I would say out of the eight years I've probably been locked maybe 70% of the time. Sure, that seems about fair Well, yeah, and we traveled a lot. 

0:11:03 - Speaker 1
I mean like 2023 specifically. We have been all over the world. Man, we have yeah. 

0:11:09 - Speaker 2
But there's I mean there's travel. We've run into issues where it's given me sores. 

0:11:14 - Speaker 1
Yes. 

0:11:14 - Speaker 2
And you know so I need some time for healing Men. It's okay to take it off if you need healing. Well, and you know, give yourself a break with this your partner should recognize that Right. 

0:11:27 - Speaker 1
You know what I mean. I mean obviously, then that will come up in the safety episode. 

0:11:31 - Speaker 2
Yeah, we'll talk about that in whatever week that is coming up. Yeah. 

0:11:34 - Speaker 1
For us specifically. Yes, he has had some issues with sores. I don't care for the plastic or the silicone, just because I don't like. I like it to be able to breathe. Plus, I like to be able to poke it when I want to, because that's okay, right. And I like other people to sometimes be able to poke it, and also okay in our world. 

So we finally get the metal cage that we like. It was a bumpy road to get there. I would say I did say fuck, yes, from the get go. I would say I maybe backtracked on that a little bit, the more real it I mean, because we just dove in and, like you know, here we go. I don't know that I've ever questioned the chastity, but I think my why, which seems to be my focus, on a lot of things in my life right now. 

But the reason that my my reasoning for enjoying chastity has changed, you know, I mean in the beginning it was. We were two hours away. I mean and I have never not trusted you. I mean, we've talked about that too, I've always had a stupid amount of trust in you. 

0:12:35 - Speaker 2
Right. 

0:12:35 - Speaker 1
And considering your past, I shouldn't have, but you've never I haven't, I didn't trust myself. Yeah. 

0:12:41 - Speaker 2
You know, but that I don't know if that's what brought. 

0:12:43 - Speaker 1
I mean, is that what brought you to showing me the chastity device was like that, like, oh yeah. 

0:12:49 - Speaker 2
I think the first thing that came to my mind is she needs to see this, because I feel like she'll be interested in this. Right? That's that's the first thing Once I started wearing it and rare wearing it on the regular is when it came into my mind that, yes, this is a fantastic idea because now you won't do something stupid, right? Not that I would, it's not something that you know, you you plan out or whatever. But this is the safety net to the devil on my shoulder saying, hey, just this one time, you know, but that avoids that you know. So that was an extra benefit to me to know that, okay, I'm secure in this. 

0:13:30 - Speaker 1
Like this is going to be the thing I don't know that that thought ever crossed my mind either. I, like I said, I had a ridiculous amount of trust in you Right. And you've never I mean real, I shouldn't say never, but I've never really had a reason to not have that trust in you. Sure, and with this dynamic, I've just come to the point where you're fucking stupid if you do something you know what I mean 100%, 100%, just like I would be. 

I mean I'm not saying that it's you know. I'm not saying it's all just me, like I have enough confidence in our relationship or I'm. I'm at a place where I'm like, holy shit, I can't believe I still like you after all this time that I'm not been talking about that lately. 

0:14:10 - Speaker 2
Yes, that I'm not. 

0:14:11 - Speaker 1
I'm not going to do anything that would jeopardize this. But here's the other thing too, with our relationship. There isn't much that could jeopardize it. I mean, you know, you know my feelings on things and how I, how I react to certain things. I mean there isn't a lot that. I mean there really isn't much that you could do that would make me say I'm out. 

0:14:31 - Speaker 2
Mm, hmm. 

0:14:32 - Speaker 1
But you know the things that there are. 

0:14:34 - Speaker 2
Listen, if we, if there was something that would have been covered by now it would be I would. I don't know, that's what I feel. 

0:14:40 - Speaker 1
I mean, we live in a fucking tiny ass camper, yep, and we haven't killed each other. Nope, can't say, and I look forward to coming home. 

0:14:46 - Speaker 2
Yeah, Weird when I'm doing my day job. 

0:14:48 - Speaker 1
I look forward to that and I still like you, yeah, so weird, fucking weird. 

0:14:52 - Speaker 2
It's so fucking weird. 

0:14:53 - Speaker 1
Okay, so back to, because we like to get sidetracked, mm hmm, but it's all relevant, yeah. It is all relevant. So we did Chastity. Obviously, like I've said multiple times now, we've we've done Chastity when we were two hours apart, mm hmm. And then we also did Chastity at fucking acorns are ridiculous. We also, you know, we were still hard and heavy at it Mm hmm, I like those words when you, when I moved to the, to moved in with you, yep, and then, I think, blending a family, mm hmm, Fucking hell, yep, okay, so there was one time that we we about lost her. 

0:15:36 - Speaker 2
Yep. 

0:15:36 - Speaker 1
And it has a lot to do with you know, we're living. We're living this dynamic and we have two other parents. That are also sticking their nose and shit Yep. And we have our own struggles as well. Mm hmm, you know, just whatever you know, my mom was living with us. 

0:15:57 - Speaker 2
Mm, hmm. 

0:15:58 - Speaker 1
Was she living with us? I don't remember, yeah she was. 

0:16:02 - Speaker 2
A lot of a lot of factors, but I think for the most part we stayed strong in the Chastity journey through that, and I think that the reason we did is we knew that that was one thing that nobody could disturb, right? 

0:16:17 - Speaker 1
This is this is un-fucking disturbable. 

0:16:21 - Speaker 2
This is our thing. Nobody plays into this, nobody affects this, except for TSA Fucking TSA. Yes, and we can talk about that, yes. 

0:16:33 - Speaker 1
What I was going to say, though I mean, I don't know if I ever really finished my thought process on. You know, my reasoning in the beginning was not the same as my reasoning now, for enjoying participating in this Because it evolved. It totally evolved and we totally like it changed from more of a visual turn on to more of a mental turn on. Yeah, so back to TSA, yep, early on in our journey, yep. 

0:16:57 - Speaker 2
We took a trip to. 

0:16:59 - Speaker 1
San Jose. 

0:17:00 - Speaker 2
Yeah, for work, I suppose. 

0:17:02 - Speaker 1
Yeah, we were doing that when you did the carpet towel. 

0:17:04 - Speaker 2
So I, so I'm just going to retell the story. Yep, yep. So I had to go to San Jose for work for several days and we were deep into the Chastity journey at the time. But knowing that I had to fly, I don't want to bring a metal device through a metal detector. 

0:17:26 - Speaker 1
Okay, or so we thought. 

0:17:28 - Speaker 2
Fatal flaw number one Mm hmm. So I at the time we had a pink cage and we had the plastic lock, pink silicone Kind of thing, yep, and we thought good to go, this should be fine, right, that's all plastic, there's no metal involved. I should be able to walk through, right, mm hmm, so we get to TSA Of course I go first. This is post 9-11, obviously, so TSA is ramped the fuck up. 

0:17:58 - Speaker 1
Mm, hmm. 

0:17:59 - Speaker 2
Right, okay, so we get to TSA and I go to walk through the detector, still in my mind thinking it's a metal detector. 

Mm hmm, right, and I come through and there's a little bit of a look on the guy's face Younger guy in his 20s. Look on the guy's face and he's looking at the screen. He's looking at me and he's looking at the screen and he's like Do you have something in your crotch? And at this point I'm thinking, well, fuck, I might as well. Yeah, I'm at TSA. Mm. Hmm, this is a federal area, right? I don't want to piss off the federal government. Sometimes they're real dicks too. Yep. 

0:18:36 - Speaker 1
So I say yes. 

0:18:40 - Speaker 2
I'm in male chastity right now Mm, hmm, and he's like what? Well, I don't understand. It's like male chastity. I wear a chastity device for my wife. All right, you lost me. 

0:18:54 - Speaker 1
This is my favorite part, where you just turn in to look at him and you're like I'm wearing a cock cage man. 

0:19:00 - Speaker 2
You know. I literally said that, yes, he says we're going to have to look at it. Great, I said really it's not that important Like it is. 

0:19:10 - Speaker 1
Wait, let me To us, it's important. Wait, let me get my wife so she can just show you pictures. Yeah, yeah, no, that wasn't so. 

0:19:17 - Speaker 2
No. So he says I'm going to need to take you over to this little room over here. I'm going to call my supervisor. We need to take a look at it. Fine, whatever. So he sashays me on over to the little booth and if you're in the Minneapolis airport at any time going through TSA, it's off to your right. That is the booth. 

0:19:38 - Speaker 1
Yeah. 

0:19:38 - Speaker 2
Right, that is the tiny room. That. 

0:19:40 - Speaker 1
Well, it depends too, because I think sometimes, nope, it is off to the right, it is always off to the right. 

0:19:45 - Speaker 2
Okay, there's different lanes at TSA, but if you look all the way to the right side, there's a tiny room there with the door. It was in that door. So he brings me over to the little room or whatever, and then we're waiting there for a minute. Then the supervisor comes in and he says what's going on? Whatever I'm, I wear a male chastity device for my wife. It's just something we do For my wife. But I said also, it's really not that important right In the whole grand scheme of things. 

0:20:13 - Speaker 1
Yes, I can take it off. 

0:20:14 - Speaker 2
I do not have to wear this on the plane to get to San Jose, I just want to get there and work. We'll sort it out later. It's not a big deal. He says no, no, no, no, I just I just need to look at it to see that's what it is, Fine. So I unzip my pants by the way, probably the first time I've unzipped my pants for another man up until that point in my life. Now we should do it all the time. I'm just saying yes. So I unzip my pants and out plops my little pink zip or pink silicone cot cage. 

0:20:46 - Speaker 1
Keyword little. 

0:20:47 - Speaker 2
The younger male bolts out the door. This is where I come in Yep, because my beautiful bride is sitting on the little oh, I was standing there. 

0:20:59 - Speaker 1
I was just standing waiting for you and standing by the my little looking at the door. 

0:21:03 - Speaker 2
Yeah, my beautiful bride was standing by the door. And unless, like you know, in cartoons, when you see, like the smoke behind the smoke and, like the, you don't see the person, but you see the whatever that he just flies by her Right. So she knows something's up at this point. 

0:21:21 - Speaker 1
I would like to interject too and mention that I was not standing overly close because I didn't want to like caught. 

0:21:27 - Speaker 2
you know, whatever I was standing, a good distance away, 20 feet away, and he opened that door and that fucking pink cock cage. 

0:21:34 - Speaker 1
I swear to God, it was glowing. 

0:21:36 - Speaker 2
Everybody. 

0:21:37 - Speaker 1
I was coming through TSA had to have been able to see that because he, like, swung the door open and took off and didn't even bother to close the door behind him. Thankfully, the older gentleman or supervisor shuts the door. 

0:21:49 - Speaker 2
He says, oh, we're good, you're fine, just go ahead Whatever. And because he's seen these things before, yeah, I would assume so. So it's, it just is what it is, and I said thanks, you know. So there was a little bit of a. I told you understand what's going on, carry on, I know, and to be fair to be fair. 

0:22:13 - Speaker 1
We were not trying to expose people to our kink. 

0:22:16 - Speaker 2
No. 

0:22:17 - Speaker 1
We were trying to still participate in a lifestyle we chose and consented to be a part of yes. And TSA had a different thought in mind. And we have not yet, or we have not and don't intend on ever putting anything on his penis. Nope, I mean, if that's the case, we'll throw it in somebody's luggage, and we'll I mean somebody that we know we won't put it in a random stranger's luggage, but that'd be really funny. 

0:22:41 - Speaker 2
Literally, like literally, we could probably put it in a backpack go through TSA and put it back on yeah, right, that's. That's how you avoid that Right. 

0:22:48 - Speaker 1
But we have not. We've just not done that. 

0:22:52 - Speaker 2
No, and. 

0:22:52 - Speaker 1
I know people fly all the time and I do know also we learned from that experience that you can reach out to TSA, yep, and they can provide you with a card that explains what it is exactly. 

0:23:01 - Speaker 2
And. 

0:23:01 - Speaker 1
I mean, it just depends on how dedicated. 

0:23:04 - Speaker 2
I don't even know if dedicated is the word, but how invested you are in your chest journey, and for us it's just not. We hear plenty of stories. I've went through TSA a hundred times and it's okay. We just choose not to. You know golden horseshoe up your ass or whatever it might be. 

0:23:18 - Speaker 1
But for the rest of us. 

0:23:20 - Speaker 2
Please think this out before you go through. 

0:23:24 - Speaker 1
Yeah. 

0:23:24 - Speaker 2
TSA government buildings hospitals. Yeah, I mean, that's a big part of why all like all these place schools you know, there's, there's legit. That's something you have to think about in these public places where you are wearing your cage, I mean I think we've told this story too. 

0:23:41 - Speaker 1
I mean, we didn't even think about it when we got married. We got married outside the Excel Center, and then we went to a wild hockey game. 

0:23:46 - Speaker 2
Right. The Minnesota Wild Hockey Team Minnesota Wild yeah. 

0:23:49 - Speaker 1
And I mean it was freezing cold out, so why wouldn't I put a metal cage on? 

0:23:53 - Speaker 2
it. 

0:23:53 - Speaker 1
That seemed to make sense. Yes, and I mean it was part of us. I mean it was important that that was. I mean, like I said, it's as symbolic as our wedding rings really To us. Thankfully, you know, we relate like usual and there was a mad dash of people trying to get through and he set the metal detector off right, I looked at him and he's just like oh, go ahead. 

0:24:13 - Speaker 2
Okay, so it was a lady. Oh yes. So, like you said, we're all huddled outside because it's fucking cold out doing our wedding ceremony Right. 

And then, like there's a, there's a crowd of I don't know 30, 40, 50 people, whatever it was, by the door, the gate that we had to get in. They opened those doors and it was a herd of cattle, yep, going through the metal detectors and all this and all this stuff, and I walked through and it totally went off and I looked at the lady and the lady looked at me and I said you know, did that. And she said you know, just okay, for the people that couldn't see, like I made a face, that I like I, what the hell was that? 

0:24:50 - Speaker 1
Yeah, and she just waved him and the lady said you know, whatever, go through, on through. 

0:24:55 - Speaker 2
And it wasn't until I got upstairs and told Ms Christine about what had happened because I bailed on him. 

0:25:01 - Speaker 1
I mean fuck it, he's got his shit under control. 

0:25:03 - Speaker 2
Yeah, I get a little overwhelmed, yeah. 

0:25:05 - Speaker 1
I pitter patter. I tend to get a little overwhelmed in social things like that. And there was a lot of people and there was a lot going on. 

0:25:15 - Speaker 2
And somehow we got separated. She got in first, went up, went upstairs and I was, you know, it took me a minute to get through and all that stuff. And I met up with her and I said I just went through the metal detectors with the metal cage. And she was like oh shit. Yeah, we're good. 

0:25:33 - Speaker 1
Yeah, didn't even think about it. 

0:25:36 - Speaker 2
So there's a lot of things to consider and for us, we've learned a lot of lessons along the way, and I know now and this is a topic that you know when I'm going to, like I said, a government building or a public building of some sort that might have a metal detector stadiums you know arenas, these sort of things, hospitals, hospitals, all these things might have a metal detector and also be conscious about that. So those are conversations that that we have now, like I don't feel good about bringing this cage through. 

0:26:06 - Speaker 1
And, that being said, I don't know. I mean we've never tried it because I there is a line that maybe you know. I mean this is more than a kink to us. But I guess it's never really been something where we both felt like we needed to push the boundaries a little bit. No, no, I can't imagine they can't. I can't imagine that they can tell you that you can't wear a chastity device. 

0:26:27 - Speaker 2
No, but again to the people that you know fucking attacked us on on TikTok when we posted the original. Tiktok about this. We don't really want to force someone on our thing, right, and that that has to do with the whole consent thing and all that, and I totally understand that we've never come across or we've never intended to come across in a way that you need to be a part of my thing or you need to be quote, unquote exposed to this. 

0:26:59 - Speaker 1
Right. 

0:26:59 - Speaker 2
So in, in, you know, going to these places, we have these conversations where I don't you know. I tell Ms Christine that I am not comfortable wearing this. I just don't. I don't think it's a good idea, right? Because? Because we're mindful of other people. 

0:27:18 - Speaker 1
Yes, to some extent, like a lot of it has to go with the environment of people around us too. I mean we're not exposing people to something that I mean we should have the freedom to express ourselves how we want to. I mean, tsa has to know when their agents get hired, that they're going to see some shit and they're just doing their job. It's not necessarily us exposing our kink. I mean we are allowed. This is our body. You know what I? 

0:27:48 - Speaker 2
mean. 

0:27:49 - Speaker 1
However, considering like, if we're going to the state fair with his mother, obviously we're not going to put him in a metal cage and then have to go through the metal detector. Go through the metal detector, I mean these are all our choices and I don't, I'm not saying or I don't agree with you can't wear that, because you're going to expose other people to your kink. 

0:28:10 - Speaker 2
No, I mean we should have the freedom to do our thing. 

0:28:13 - Speaker 1
Now I think everybody has their own choice. I mean, it should be as simple as saying it's a male chastity device and if that person needs to take it to the next step, then that's on them. You know what, for their job or for their safety. It's such a fine line, like I go back and forth with it, but that's a whole different topic, not another. Whole different topic, but I feel passionate too about the fact that. I should be able to, I mean, we should be able to participate in this. 

0:28:40 - Speaker 2
It's not like. 

0:28:41 - Speaker 1
I'm dragging you through with a leash in your dick exposed. I mean this isn't affecting anybody else. Visually other than if they need to take it to the next level, to see Right Again, and I guess it's. 

0:28:55 - Speaker 2
You know your level of comfort with all of this, however, but you need to be prepared that it will take. 

0:29:00 - Speaker 1
It'll be taken to that level, I mean we'll talk about it in an episode upcoming the different levels of chastity, or how deep into this you wanna go? I mean some people live by this or this is something that they religiously for lack of a better word participate in, and it means a lot to them in taking it off. So I just want to. I mean, you have to advocate for yourself, and as long as you, I mean it's different than you know if you were to be walking around with your tits out or whatever. 

0:29:31 - Speaker 2
Right, right, right right. You know it's a different Right. I was just saying that. You know if this, if you were going to be bold enough to wear it through the thing. 

0:29:38 - Speaker 1
Right. 

0:29:39 - Speaker 2
You have to know the consequences on the other side. 

0:29:41 - Speaker 1
Absolutely that this will probably happen. Right and we choose not to, so you need to right. 

0:29:45 - Speaker 2
So you need to be prepared that you'll have to go through these things. 

0:29:48 - Speaker 1
Like? Is your belief or your desire to do this as strong as the consequences for this choice? 

0:29:57 - Speaker 2
Right that you just have to be prepared Right. 

0:29:59 - Speaker 1
Yeah, so as far as our testing journey, because we need to roll, rap, roll whatever. I'm hungry this up. Our test city journey. I mean, I don't know that we really we talked about some of the things that we've encountered. There have been bumps in the road, sores on the balls all the things, Sure, all the things. 

0:30:16 - Speaker 2
These days I haven't been caged in all for a while. 

0:30:20 - Speaker 1
Mm-hmm. 

0:30:21 - Speaker 2
Because? Well, for two reasons, because of everything that's going on. You know, a lot of unknowns are happening right now. 

0:30:31 - Speaker 1
You never know when you're gonna end up at a hospital Right, maybe not so much now, but no, but that's a small part of it. 

0:30:37 - Speaker 2
The other part of it, the major part of it, is the cage that I have is just not working. 

0:30:41 - Speaker 1
Yeah, we need a new cage, right, and we just haven't gotten around to it, right and it's just not really safe for me to wear it. 

0:30:46 - Speaker 2
You know I could probably wear it on occasion and that's fine, but there is, you know, when it starts cutting into your ball sack skin. Mm-hmm and we have to be realistic right now. 

0:30:57 - Speaker 1
We have other places that our money needs to go. 

0:31:00 - Speaker 2
Right, while it's important to us Right. 

0:31:03 - Speaker 1
It's just not a priority until we've kind of figured out what back to Christine's camping podcast what this will look like when we go. So our journey has been a long one. 

0:31:16 - Speaker 2
It's been a fun one. It's just the season we're in. It is yep. 

0:31:20 - Speaker 1
And it doesn't have to be always and forever, you know. However, I do really miss wearing my key. 

0:31:25 - Speaker 2
I miss seeing it. I do like it so much Dearly. I miss it. 

0:31:32 - Speaker 1
So I think that sums up our ouch. So that was kind of our journey. I don't know. If you have questions or want to hear more about it. 

0:31:45 - Speaker 2
You can feel free. We welcome questions. 

0:31:47 - Speaker 1
Yeah, feel free to reach out Next week will be safety tips for male chastity. 

0:31:51 - Speaker 2
We will talk about. We'll talk about the situation. Situations on the ball sack. 

0:31:55 - Speaker 1
Yep, absolutely. And then maybe in there somewhere we will also talk about the different levels of chastity prior to starting with the safety issues. 

0:32:06 - Speaker 2
Like there's different levels of it, we'll kind of combine the two, so the different maybe you should maybe know the safety before getting into it, so that makes sense, yeah. 

0:32:14 - Speaker 1
We'll kind of combine those two and that will be next week in October. 

0:32:19 - Speaker 2
Gosh, I love that month. 

0:32:20 - Speaker 1
The following week is what the the following week will be temptation the concept and why it's an exciting time for couples. 

0:32:31 - Speaker 2
And we welcome your stories. 

0:32:32 - Speaker 1
Yes, any feedback, any reasons why you specifically participate. I mean, some people don't participate in chastity, and then October comes and they do it for the full 30 days, 31 days. 

0:32:41 - Speaker 2
Right, and also on the ways that you tempt your man. The way the man likes to be tempted, or what has brought him to his knees? 

0:32:52 - Speaker 1
Yes, yes, yes, yes. 

0:32:59 - Speaker 2
Oh wrong podcast. 

0:33:04 - Speaker 1
So that will be next week, and I suspect fucking Subby will be here, because it's our fucking podcast. 

0:33:11 - Speaker 2
It is the following week is just kind of some all the whole. 

0:33:14 - Speaker 1
Some everything up. What? 

0:33:15 - Speaker 2
was your journey like? What have been your October journeys been like All these kind of things? Was there anything? 

0:33:20 - Speaker 1
that you struggled with during your October journey, or if you are choosing that to participate in it again next year. What is your reasoning? So why don't you want to participate? Yeah, what? 

0:33:28 - Speaker 2
have you learned all the things and that will be like the summary and we'll probably have some feedback from the ladies group that we can share at the time. So yeah, kind of a pulporee of sorts, yes, or a sharkhood reward. 

0:33:43 - Speaker 1
A shark-couchery. 

0:33:47 - Speaker 2
Anyway. 

0:33:47 - Speaker 1
so I'm sorry and we'll have our weekly Judy and Steve reference. 

0:33:50 - Speaker 2
Yes, there's that Every week. 

0:33:53 - Speaker 1
So come back and see us next week when we talk about safety and levels of male chastity in the fantastic month of October. Have a fantastic week. Be a good human being, stay safe, stay healthy. Love you all. Mwah!!!

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