EP: 0319 - Female Led Relationships - Conversation with a Vanilla Couple

Are you curious about the intriguing dynamics of a Female Led Relationship lifestyle? We promise this episode will quench your curiosity and provide the food for thought you crave. We're thrilled to have EA and TeaTime, a power couple who are eager to learn about this lifestyle and share their perspectives on relationships and life.

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Transcript

0:00:00 - Speaker 1
Yeah, it's not like it's awkward, it's just oh fuck, that really just happened and you know let's not do that again. 

0:00:06 - Speaker 2
Yeah, that's it. 

It's delightful. 

0:01:13 - Speaker 2
That's your new word is delightful. 

0:01:28 - Speaker 1
Housekeeping I want to put out there. We had our ladies group meeting this past Thursday. Coming up into my favorite month of the year, Locktober. We will be doing two ladies groups, one in the beginning. The second Thursday of the month will be just us ladies to talk about how October has started. Then the second meeting we are going to do, where you can bring your subby to the meeting and we'll talk about how October has gone. If you want to participate in the meeting, you sure don't have to be participating in locktober. Feel free to join by yourself for the first one, or with your subby for whatever you would like to refer lovingly to him. As for the second meeting, that's over on the Patreon. 

That is on the Patreon. Join the Patreon. It's just the lowest tier to get to the Zoom link Super cheap. What else was there, oh OWWLL? 

0:02:27 - Speaker 2
Yeah, talk about OWWLL. 

0:02:28 - Speaker 1
I don't ever go live, but that's not true. 

0:02:34 - Speaker 2
That is not true I do. You've been live a good handful of times. You're getting better at it, yeah. 

0:02:39 - Speaker 1
So if anyone's interested in talking to me again, I need to emphasize this is not for a phone sex use. This is for if you are struggling with your partner in your female-led relationship or whatever the case may be. You can reach out to me on Owl and we can have a conversation. I think it's what? 

0:02:57 - Speaker 2
$10 or $2 for 10 minutes. It's $10. Okay, you get a free $10 if you use your code which is FLR. And you can talk to people for a dollar for 10 minutes. Oh yeah, so I'm cheap. A lot of people, including Krystine and EA is on there as well. 

0:03:15 - Speaker 3
I'm a little more in a dollar. 

0:03:18 - Speaker 1
Yeah, as you should be. As you should be, but is that? 

0:03:20 - Speaker 3
really worth going on. 

0:03:22 - Speaker 1
Yes, 100% yes. So if you're interested in that and if, for any reason, I'm not live but if I'm not live, take that out If I'm not live, you can request for me to go live. If I am not in the middle of doing something, I will go live immediately and we can have our conversation, and I think that's it. It was just I wanted to get the ladies group for October. I have all of my topics for October picked out, so those episodes were going to work on this weekend and throughout this week, so hopefully they will all be pre-recorded so that I yes, I said I can edit them. 

0:03:56 - Speaker 2
How proud are you? And get them done. It's not a try. 

0:04:01 - Speaker 3
I'm not going to try, I'm going to do it, so yeah that's the plan. 

0:04:06 - Speaker 1
I'm excited for the October episodes. I think they'll be fun. I'm just excited for October. 

0:04:12 - Speaker 2
We have a couple episodes that are going to finish up this season, and then season four starts in October, which is going to coincide with EA's podcast Actually too, and we'll talk about that too. 

0:04:23 - Speaker 1
Yes, and I think that is it for housekeeping. 

0:04:27 - Speaker 2
I think so. 

0:04:28 - Speaker 1
Okay, so let's dive in. So this episode we are. We have EA in his lovely way and we're going to talk about, we'll do introductions, but it's basically a fire away. Ask any question that comes to your mind about our dynamic, the things that we participate in, and now this is a couple that is not in the lifestyle of any shape, they're just a fantastic couple that's here to ask us the questions that maybe you want to know. The answers to that you haven't asked. 

0:04:58 - Speaker 2
And this is actually kind of designed to to like, if you are a lovely listener, who we appreciate very much, if you are in an FLR and you are getting questions from people, our answers might help you answer some of those questions too. So, and again, do your own research, do your own, all your stuff. We're not, like, the end all authority on anything, but we might come up with a nugget of something that would be helpful. 

0:05:24 - Speaker 1
I mean, that's the goal at the end of the day. 

0:05:27 - Speaker 3
So yeah, okay. 

0:05:28 - Speaker 1
So you, you introduced yourself and your beautiful bride. Yeah, and let me know what you would like us to call you. Some people don't want to use their real name. 

0:05:37 - Speaker 3
Right. So it's right there in the corner. I got it. I got it actually in the corner. I'm EA and this is my beautiful queen. We have a podcast streaming on all platforms. It's meet the Allens. You know we talk about relationships. We talk about, you know, perspective. It's all about the perspectives. 

0:05:55 - Speaker 4
Everything, yeah, I love it. All in between. 

0:06:00 - Speaker 3
Keep it up. 

0:06:01 - Speaker 4
All of it, zero, 100. 

0:06:02 - Speaker 3
So I'm yeah, I'm waiting for my wife to warm up a little bit, but we're here. I wanted her to join me for this one, just because I felt like it was. It has so many different dynamics to it and woman's touch ain't nothing like a woman's touch. 

0:06:15 - Speaker 1
So I want to hear that, so yeah, Well, I'm real, I'm really glad that she decided to join you too, because I love it when we can, we can get the views of both, and I love that. You guys have a podcast about relationships and you said it's all about perspective. My goodness, I can't tell you how many times I've said that on my podcast. It is a hundred percent about perspective. 

0:06:35 - Speaker 3
That's what it's about. 

0:06:36 - Speaker 1
Communication and yes, so that's awesome. 

0:06:40 - Speaker 3
So diving in, I'm going to dive in. 

0:06:42 - Speaker 4
Letting you yeah, take the lead. So what exactly? Well, before we dive in, let me introduce my own self, sis. I didn't get to do my introduction I did it. It's a big thing, I don't need you to introduce me. Yes, my name is Tali Ba. I don't mind, you know, putting it on the podcast, but they do call me T-Time. Yes, I am the wife of this magnificent man, ea. We've been together for a long time. However, I am my own person as well Now. 

I've been in the medical insurance field for actually 10 years today and I have my own gardening business Pure love. Garden therapy actually is teaching sub sustainability and also interacting with therapy, because you know the dirt that you actually put your hands in is the same as taking an antidepressant. It is. 

0:07:31 - Speaker 1
Oh my gosh, I love that. 

0:07:33 - Speaker 4
Yes, so you know, watch out, I too am out, I don't go live. That is just one thing. I am actually challenging myself, but that's because I don't like talking on the phone. So you know, I mean, it's not that I don't like it. I was in customer service for so long when I got off, I just wasn't doing any phones and then got in the head of not talking on the phone, but this guy right here pushes me all the time and I'll be like well, I believe it. 

Hold on, hold on, but yeah, time out. 

0:08:00 - Speaker 3
I wake up talking out. I'm like honey, go live. It'd be like four in the morning. I'm like I'm going to go to work but I'll be like honey, go, make sure you go live today. I'm in my final word before I go to work. I'm saying make sure you go live today. 

0:08:16 - Speaker 1
I see it works. I see it works as much for you as it does for me, because I don't also. 

0:08:21 - Speaker 2
I do the same thing. 

0:08:23 - Speaker 4
Yeah, and I should, I really should, and it might be beneficial in the future. But you know something that you're ready to do. It is not something that I put the force on Right now. 

0:08:33 - Speaker 2
There's so many amazing people on all I just I'm just blown away, yeah, so speaking of force. 

0:08:40 - Speaker 3
I like that. I like what you say. You can't force a person just on my head. I'm here. I'm here. I got a million questions. I like that. I like that. And I met Christine. I mean, I was working with Brian first. I was working with him first, and then Christine appeared on the out app and she ran into one of my partners like that I work with, and she spoke something. And then one thing led to another. She was on a podcast and I heard her. Omg, and it was just like I was like breathtaking, like the words, how she spoke. I was like I was like wow, I was, I was like she is powerful. So what is the lifestyle? You say like, you know, like when you introduce us, you said we wasn't with the lifestyle. What is the lifestyle? Let's start there. 

0:09:22 - Speaker 2
Okay, well, the the when, when, when you hear the word, you know the lifestyle and quotes it can automatically go to swingers. 

Yeah, it's it's, it's it's a swingers connotation kind of, but there's. So that one word represents an incredible rainbow of different types of relationships and different types of personalities and different types of, you know, desires or needs or whatever. It's such a, it's such a wide you know. Yeah, it's, it's all over the place. So our specific little area in that is a female-led relationship, okay, which and now, even in that, there's still a huge rainbow in that as well, because there's some people that are on on one end of it where it's very, it's very laid-back. It's not overly run by the woman, right you know, but it's influenced, right you know like that word right, but then way on the other side, like the man doesn't hardly speak a word 

0:10:42 - Speaker 1
yeah, there's there's it's a variety of levels and I think that using the term in the lifestyle is just a label and I don't like labels, but it's the easiest way for people to kind of get on board with kind of what we're talking about or just kind of understand. Like everybody you say you're in the lifestyle. People generally get what that means and then if they want to know more then they'll ask questions because with this dynamic and and and really the life that we live, we let people lead. You know, I don't I don't want to push my life on somebody else or something that makes them feel uncomfortable, so I very much let them lead the conversation. And if I say not in the lifestyle or in the lifestyle generally, I mean you kind of knew what it meant. So it's a, it's a lead word that really allows them to kind of take control of the conversation to figure out what they want to know or how far in depth they want to go with it right and it gives you that perspective. 

0:11:36 - Speaker 2
You know we were talking earlier about perspective you know that, we know that, okay, this conversation is going to have this perspective, right, you know, or whatever it is. 

0:11:45 - Speaker 1
So it's just kind of pushes you in a direction and I think a lot of people live this dynamic without the name. I think there's a lot of good men out there that are attentive to their wife. Yes, and if you were from the outside looking in, you could say it was a female-led relationship. But it, you know, you don't need that label either. You guys, you do. You do what works for your relationship. I I like it because it makes me feel empowered. So I like to say I'm in a female-led relationship and he very much likes being told. You know, he likes being called my subby or, you know, being told that you're being he'll. 

0:12:21 - Speaker 4
He'll say that he's submissive and he enjoys that so that tickles his fantasy, yeah, yeah and which is cool, but that I really appreciate the breakdown of that because it actually leads me to a very question that I really have. Like, when you say female-led relationship, I was just thinking like you know, there are some aspects of our relationship where I was that I'm or you know. So what, what makes it different? You know I'm saying what makes it different, what makes it a you know, a lifestyle, versus just a way that you communicate with your spouse well it. 

0:12:55 - Speaker 2
It definitely starts with that, it with how you communicate with your spouse. You know, we, we, we, man, we use that word ad nauseam. Like we found it, we pound it. We pound it, just like EA pounds some of his words over and over right. We talk about communication being the, the base, the founding, the, the, the, the, the. 

What I want to say, the cornerstone you know, yes, it's the cornerstone of the relationship, yeah, right. And then you know, on top of that is honesty and transparency and and and trust and all of that stuff, and all that stuff that exists in our, in our marriage and our relationship. Man, that's what. 

0:13:38 - Speaker 1
What takes it further is when you add a little bit of, and you add your whatever level it is of the dominant and submissive identification which we enjoy that, the Dom sub aspect of it, like I enjoy those those names and it makes me feel empowered and I mean even just being in this relationship, because I knew nothing. I mean I grew up Catholic. 

I knew nothing of this entire world. So when we start the, the labels for me helps me kind of grasp what, what it is we're doing, and kind of so for us it's and I, I literally I mean I pretty much control everything. Like I don't I wouldn't say that we're an extreme level, but like all of our vehicles are in my name, all all of our property is in my name and I handle the money and you know all of those things, which is things that we sat down and talked about. 

0:14:28 - Speaker 4
That's why I wanted her to be here. 

0:14:33 - Speaker 3
Honestly, I wanted her to hear this because I'm like you know, I'm fascinated by this whole thing. 

0:14:38 - Speaker 4
But I, but at the same time, it definitely it, it doesn't sit well with me, just a label put on right, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sometimes when you put labels on things, that frightens people because they feel like they're on the box on people you know what I'm saying, and I don't like, I don't like putting people or anyone in a box. 

You know, I feel like people should, you know, do what they want to do but work, like you said earlier, what works for them. But now that I hear it, like when we with and I heard a little bit of the interview before, like when he spoke on it it wasn't in that dynamic, it was in a different time like, oh, like he doesn't say anything, whatever I mean, but I think in every relationship there's a person that takes all. You know, I'm saying the strong and something, and you know, maybe the lesser, I guess, if that's how you want to put a label on it. So thank you very much for you know, just expanding on it, I mean. 

0:15:32 - Speaker 1
So yeah, yeah, absolutely when, when we have like a major life decision, like I would never and there are couples that do I mean this is to each their own, but I would never make a major financial decision without taking, at the end of the day, it's my decision, but I will always take, you know, we'll sit down and we'll have a conversation like any other married couple and be like, okay, well, here's the pros and cons of it and in the final decision is mine. But I always know what his opinion is and where he's at with it, and then I choose accordingly. So I mean I just prefer, I mean I like the, I like the female lead relationship label, and I think that has a lot to do with my previous relationships as well. I was always, you know, I never really felt in control. I took care of everything, but I never really felt like I was in control. 

Yeah, yeah, so I really like that. I mean I don't. I don't feel like it puts me in a box per se. I think it empowers me, but I do see, because I don't like labels. I, I like our labels because I choose to use them, but I I don't. I mean I think there's a lot of people out there that live this type of relationship and and don't even. It just looks like a very attentive husband taking care of his wife and doing things to make her life easier and right. I mean, really that's all that matters. You know, happy wife, happy life well, happy spouse, happy house. 

0:16:56 - Speaker 4
Yes, so so. 

0:17:06 - Speaker 3
I remember, you know, when we first started, like Brian was to mentioning about, you know the dynamics and the rainbows and stuff like that. So in your particular female dominated relationship, what, what are some of? What are some aspects that are different than others? Like, what are some of the things that are dominant that you know? Our relationship consists of this like I'm interested in that you're not the money. I mean, we know the money, I got that already, like yeah, talk dirty to me okay, so let me break down a little bit. 

0:17:39 - Speaker 1
So a female-led relationship. I like to refer to it as like a scoop of vanilla ice cream. Right, yeah, more strawberry chocolate whatever right yes, and then you, you add in, you add in. There's other different things that you can add in that are your preferences right like the sprinkles, or maybe you want some chocolate syrup or you know whatever it might be. So, like us personally, we participate in Chastity, which we talked about October, so okay, so Chastity for the people in the back let's open up this can of worms. 

Here we go so my wonderful subbie here came to me probably a year after we started this, this dynamic so we'd probably been together for about a year and he sends me a picture of a cock cage, to which I respond fuck, yes, so it's just literally. It's exactly what it sounds like. It's a Chastity device. I prefer the metal variety. So it has a ring that goes around his balls and then there's literally a cage that goes up over his penis, and this is the key that unlocks the lock for the cage. 

0:18:56 - Speaker 2
So is it something more of a day. 

0:18:59 - Speaker 1
So when we started, we didn't do it every day and this is another area where I'm in control. A lot of people are like why the fuck would you do that? Don't you like having sex with your husband? Well, yes, of course I do. I take it out, I do what I want with it and then I put it away. I mean, I don't know how else to really explain. 

0:19:16 - Speaker 2
No, that's right. No, that's right. Yeah, that's what I was about to say. Like you know, lifestyle's got its whole thing right, then FLR's got its whole, and then, of course, chastity also has its whole thing, right, you know. So this is by this all comes up, by communication, right? You know, I wasn't forced into anything. We talked about it and agreed that this would work for both of us. 

0:19:41 - Speaker 1
And I 100% trust my husband. This is not because I think he's going to go cheat on me, so I locked his dick up Right Now talking to him. 

0:19:50 - Speaker 2
Okay, I mean we're being honest and open, right? So my history, like I had the history that I wasn't very proud of. I was not a faithful husband in my past, you know. So wearing this cage to mean something to me I know I'm not going to do anything In this relationship. I'd be fucking stupid to do something, right. 

0:20:10 - Speaker 1
Yeah, and I've always trusted him. 

0:20:12 - Speaker 2
I've never been more happy in my life, right. 

0:20:14 - Speaker 3
I can dig it. 

0:20:15 - Speaker 2
I can. But that voice in my little voice in my head says hey, this is probably a good idea. You should do this, you know. And so I enjoy it. Actually it's something I enjoy. 

0:20:27 - Speaker 3
That she gets control and she can unlock you and lock you up. Yes, how long do you get to have that? I mean, how long is that privilege going for? Like a month or a week? How do we do this? 

0:20:38 - Speaker 1
We were pretty much 24 seven For a while, for quite a while. Yeah, it's kind of I mean, take away the physical aspect of it, to a certain extent it's actually a pretty intense bond between the two of us. I mean it's more than just this device on his penis. I mean there's a connection between us and it's like it's kind of like our little cute secret. 

I mean I don't know if cute would be a good word to describe it but you know, it's kind of like our secret, like this key goes to the lock of something that's on his penis, and only him, and I know that you know, you know for a while now. Well, listen, the lock on it isn't cute, I mean it's not. He could bolt, cutter it off. 

0:21:18 - Speaker 2
I've had to take it off in emergency yeah. 

0:21:21 - Speaker 1
It's not. I mean we don't have a real. I mean you can get some pretty intense cages that would be very, very hard to get off, like you have to have a backup key at all times. But yes, safety first obviously. And if there was something that you know. Sometimes it can cause a sore because it rubs or there's you know whatever. And then we take it off. 

0:21:41 - Speaker 2
You know what I mean. It's never gonna be. You gotta be healthy, you know. You don't don't be, you know, reckless with it Be doing her bro With your body. Do it her no Be be Well, okay about that. 

0:21:53 - Speaker 4
Yes, I will. 

0:21:56 - Speaker 2
So, you know, in the middle of the night sometimes you get the pee boner Right. Okay. Well, if this is locked up in a cage, it can only grow so big Once it's reached yeah, once it's reached that it gets to be painful. Now, me personally, after being after doing this for a few months or whatever I don't know the specific time, but those have gone away. I don't have those in the middle of the night. 

0:22:24 - Speaker 1
However, I don't know if it's that way for everybody, because I've had some listeners tell me that that really never goes away. 

0:22:30 - Speaker 4
Oh right. 

0:22:31 - Speaker 1
You know, it's not as frequent. 

0:22:32 - Speaker 3
So you gotta, you know, get in the, you gotta go to the restroom. 

0:22:35 - Speaker 1
No, no, so the cage is the cage has rings on it, so it's kind of open, so it's open, I mean there are cages that are fully enclosed, yeah. But what did somebody in my ladies group call it? I think she called it prune dick or pickle dick. If it's super enclosed and you don't get air, it's you know you sweat or whatever. I've always much preferred the metal cages, because they don't you don't have as much of an issue with a smell. 

He's able to get his fingers in there and clean when he needs to, and it comes off on Sundays for regular cleaning and a deep cleaning and whatever. 

0:23:10 - Speaker 2
But there's a hole at the end of it so that he can pee, so that just means I have to sit down to pee. 

0:23:16 - Speaker 1
That's one area I have to pee. 

0:23:18 - Speaker 2
She enjoys that part of it. 

0:23:19 - Speaker 3
So how long? How long? What's the longest you've worked for at once, oh? 

0:23:25 - Speaker 1
Well, it always comes off on Sundays, so if you exclude that, I mean there was probably two years. We went solid. 

0:23:31 - Speaker 4
Yeah. 

0:23:32 - Speaker 1
I mean it, but it would come off and we I mean we didn't not have sex for two years, Right, right, but I mean, but again I'm fucking you. 

0:23:40 - Speaker 3
But clean back up. Brother, I'm fucking you right now, but you're gonna lock it right back up. 

0:23:45 - Speaker 1
That's exactly how that goes. I'm gonna take it off. I'm gonna use you and then we're gonna put it right back. 

0:23:53 - Speaker 2
Ooh Right, you guys might now, that's right. 

0:23:55 - Speaker 3
I feel the energy. I feel the energy Yep. 

0:23:58 - Speaker 2
Yep, but, like we were saying, there's different, there's different, there's different ranges of that also, like there are people who are absolutely 24, seven. They're never out. You know. They've figured out, whatever their rhythm is, to stay in constantly, 24, seven, 365, whatever. And then, there you know, other people who are doing Chastity, are, like, you know, doing it on the weekends or once, you know, once during the day or whatever. This whole thing is about what you two as a couple decide. There's no, you know, you have to do it this way. 

0:24:36 - Speaker 1
And if you're just starting your Chastity journey, I mean not that you guys are gonna start a Chastity journey. 

0:24:41 - Speaker 4
Well, you never know. 

0:24:43 - Speaker 1
Yeah, well, you don't, that is true. Yeah, aren't you happy you brought her? 

0:24:49 - Speaker 3
You almost did what. 

0:24:51 - Speaker 1
Her and I are gonna have a little sidebar conversation. 

0:24:54 - Speaker 4
Yeah, left. Oh wow, we go live. 

0:24:58 - Speaker 2
There you go, there you go. 

0:25:00 - Speaker 1
You should absolutely. If you're just starting this, you should start slow and you should try. It's gonna. It's a real journey to get to the right cage, the right fit, and there's there is a lot that goes into it. 

0:25:10 - Speaker 3
You probably need a actual yeah. 

0:25:14 - Speaker 4
You would need what. 

0:25:14 - Speaker 3
Yeah. 

0:25:17 - Speaker 1
A bigger than a cage? Yes, sure, okay, so I would suspect that there are probably. You can get custom ones too. 

0:25:22 - Speaker 2
Yes. 

0:25:23 - Speaker 1
But I mean, if you're gonna do metal, that might be a awfully heavy cage. I would want something. 

0:25:27 - Speaker 3
I would want something I couldn't even. I don't know why I'm saying this. This is ridiculous. But in order to need it, consider it right, it would have to be something that were. If I was to have an erection, it could be in there too. I can't understand the lock syndrome. I can. I see myself. When you were talking about that. I felt my wife's energy. She we've been through some shit, so that right there it's gonna be an air bubble. I got you. 

0:25:50 - Speaker 2
Now that might sound good to her. 

0:25:52 - Speaker 3
I can see her pushing something like that. But right, the only way it would work. It has to, like my thing has to be able to move around and breathe inside the chest, where I can't go in nobody else. But I need to be able to breathe around my own. 

0:26:05 - Speaker 4
Well, first of all, I think you should already have your own self. 

0:26:08 - Speaker 3
I'm just saying, if it was for the rest of it. No, I don't care, I ain't locking that thing up. That's for the record. I would never lock myself up. I don't see how it works. There we go. 

0:26:18 - Speaker 1
I can't lock myself up. It's interesting too, though, because a lot of interaction that I get from my podcast, too, it's the men that bring it up. So it's pretty interesting. It's not generally. The women are generally like what do you mean? You wanna lock your dick up, right? 

0:26:32 - Speaker 2
right, right, I was gonna go off it and then yeah. So then on that social media is actually doing a disservice to this kind of relationship antichacity because it sets very unrealistic expectations on the people interested in it, that they think it's going to be like this. While listen, we all we're human beings. We have lives and we have problems, and we have all like there's daily driver stuff that we need to consider. 

And that was really one of the reasons we actually started the podcast to start with, because there wasn't really anything that addressed the mixed family stressed about money truck breaking down all struggle with the family. There was nothing. It was all like fantasy kind of it's all cootsy, like. That is not practical. So we started this because we felt that there needed to be something practical that people could listen to. 

0:27:39 - Speaker 3
Therapy. It's therapy also. 

0:27:41 - Speaker 1
Exactly yeah, and it's very real life. 

0:27:43 - Speaker 3
It is so you know what I just like. I love how this conversation is going because, the way I look at it now, you gave me the foundation with the ice cream scoop and the sprinkles right, and I see the chastity as a sprinkle right. 

0:28:00 - Speaker 1
Yeah. 

0:28:00 - Speaker 3
Well, there are some other sprinkles and I think, and I also I'm gonna associate you, ms Christine, you're the ice cream, right, he's the sprinkles, damn it. So, brother, hey, mr Sprinkles, where's the sprinkles you sent to the ice cream? Yes, that's different than most. I mean, what's the secret sauce to the ice cream? 

0:28:22 - Speaker 1
I mean, I would say chocolate sauce, but this next thing would probably be a bad reference to use for chocolate sauce. They should probably find something. 

0:28:29 - Speaker 3
Yeah, well, go ahead. 

0:28:31 - Speaker 1
Let's do these chocolate sauce. 

0:28:33 - Speaker 3
I'm painting this picture in my head. I see ice cream and then I see sprinkles. The chastity belt was a sprinkle that was more like you know the actual sprinkles. Yeah, what's the next one? You got chocolate sauce for me. Yeah, we do pegging. 

0:28:47 - Speaker 1
So maybe a bad choice of sauce type chocolate sauce for pegging. But so pegging is, I will put a strap on on and put it in my husband's butt. 

0:29:02 - Speaker 3
Yes, okay. Well, I'm getting a little closer to the mic here, because I've never heard the term until I met you. I mean, I think I might've heard it, but I never understood it. Yeah, my wife knows, she knows everything, she's into all this stuff, but I don't know, I don't know, but, peggy, what is that? What is that? What is that? What is that? 

0:29:26 - Speaker 1
So if we want to talk about what makes me feel empowered and I don't know why this is but you strap on a dildo on me and I am like queen of the fucking world, like I want to play peace swords, I want to do helicopter, I want to do all the things that men get to do with their wieners. Okay, okay. And obviously my husband doesn't have a vagina, he only has one hole. So that's what we do we put it in that singular hole. 

0:29:55 - Speaker 3
Okay, and then how does that make you feel, mr Sprinkles? Is that your name for the podcast? 

0:29:59 - Speaker 2
Yeah, Mr Sprinkles, I love it. 

0:30:01 - Speaker 3
How's that? What does that do for you, sir? 

0:30:04 - Speaker 2
So that plays into the submissive side of me, right? So that's because I'm submissive, I am submitting to that and it's more. It's definitely a physical thing, obviously, but it's absolutely a powerful emotional thing and mental thing. 

0:30:23 - Speaker 3
It really is Speak to that the emotional how and where what the it's. 

0:30:31 - Speaker 2
I get to feel my wife's power right and then I get to feel powerless, like she is absolutely dominating me in that situation. 

0:30:42 - Speaker 4
Hmm, you say it was such conviction, and I love it. 

0:30:46 - Speaker 2
Well, it's what it is. You know, and for a long time I was like I've had this tendency for a very long time, but I was never with anybody that I felt as comfortable as I am now to talk about it. Right, and guess what? There are thousands of men across America very much like me, but they're too scared to say something about it Right, they are man. 

0:31:10 - Speaker 1
Well, because of the fear of the state of being gay, or that like if there is one thing that is a real hot button topic for me, because just I mean, it's just another area to receive pleasure, just because it's your asshole or your anus, or whatever you want to call it, and you like to have something put in it that does not make you gay. 

You are gay if you are attracted and have emotional connections and feelings of love towards another person of the same sex. What you put in your holes does not determine your sexuality, Like that is so Like what do they have? 

0:31:49 - Speaker 4
those butt beads, those Yep anal? 

0:31:52 - Speaker 1
plugs and anal beads. Yeah, Yep, just because you enjoy, that does not make you gay. It's just another way to enjoy pleasure. Or, and if that's an area like listen, nothing's going in my butt ever so, unless I'm drunk and in the shower we've decided, but which will never happen. Right so it's not for me, but I very much enjoy being in control and do and again he brought this to me. I didn't know what the fuck it was. I was like what do you mean you? 

want me to put something in your butt or are you crazy Like? This one wasn't an easy. This one wasn't like fuck. Yes. 

0:32:27 - Speaker 3
But then, once you did it, you're like, oh fuck yeah. Yeah. 

0:32:32 - Speaker 2
Yeah. 

0:32:32 - Speaker 1
I mean, the first time is always awkward and you're kind of like you know. 

0:32:35 - Speaker 2
I mean, obviously you have your Lot of figuring out, but it's communication, yeah. And it's trust and I would do any. 

0:32:41 - Speaker 1
I mean, like I'm so comfortable doing anything with this man, Like you know what I mean, Like we will fuck up or something will be awkward and we'll just laugh it off. 

0:32:49 - Speaker 2
Like it's, there's nothing. 

0:32:51 - Speaker 1
Yeah, it's not like it's awkward, it's just oh fuck, that really just happened. 

0:32:55 - Speaker 2
And you know, let's not do that again. Yeah, that's why I. 

0:32:58 - Speaker 1
That's off the table for now. Or maybe we shouldn't do that next time, or let's figure out a way to make sure that doesn't happen. 

0:33:04 - Speaker 2
Right. 

0:33:04 - Speaker 1
Not specifically just with pegging. I mean, he's never shit on me. 

0:33:07 - Speaker 3
so in case anybody's wondering, Right, I was gonna ask that. But do you consider yourself, like you know, bisexual or gay, like you know at all, in any Um? 

0:33:20 - Speaker 2
You know, I don't have a yes or no for that, to be honest, because there are absolutely men that I think, man, that guy's good looking, you know. 

0:33:31 - Speaker 3
But I, you know. So, going down that line, right, if she's just a female-dominated relationship, and she told, I guess, told you. And she told you, yep, hey, yeah, plenty, I want you to. Yeah, let him do it instead of me. I'm a watch. Is that something you would be open to? 

0:33:49 - Speaker 2
I would do that because it's something that she enjoys. 

0:33:52 - Speaker 1
So that's like a key foundation of our relationship. If there's something that I enjoy or something that would bring me pleasure or turn me on, he'll fucking do it. He doesn't care, I mean there's hard limits, obviously. 

0:34:04 - Speaker 3
Right right right. You know what's a hard limit. You sound like shit. I'm trying to find a wall. Where's the wall? I don't see a wall here. Where's your Like? 

0:34:14 - Speaker 4
where's your finding me? 

0:34:15 - Speaker 3
I'm taking nosed because I haven't had to be like Finally, okay, where's the wall? Give me a wall. 

0:34:21 - Speaker 2
You know, as a couple we've not found a wall. I like it Really, you know, I like it. That was a great answer, as this these two specific people have not found a wall, necessarily, other than we don't do like shit play. 

0:34:36 - Speaker 1
Oh yeah, absolutely not. 

0:34:38 - Speaker 2
There's people that do that. That's not our thing. 

0:34:40 - Speaker 1
What did you? Say Shit play or scat play. Like people like to be shit on that, yeah, nope. Yeah, that's a hard limit. 

0:34:49 - Speaker 2
Okay, yeah. 

0:34:50 - Speaker 3
That can be very smelly. 

0:34:52 - Speaker 2
That's a wall yeah, yeah, that's a wall you don't say no animals, dude, I love my children. 

0:34:56 - Speaker 4
No, no, no, yeah, I didn't even go there yeah that would be an absolute hard limit. 

0:35:00 - Speaker 3
Hard limit. There's a wall, there's a wall, there's the wall, there's the wall. There's no children. Oh, yeah, no children Jesus Christ no, okay, right, so the wall was built, we got a wall, we got a wall. Yeah, yeah, I mean. 

0:35:11 - Speaker 1
I guess to me that's just common sense things. 

0:35:13 - Speaker 3
Right. 

0:35:15 - Speaker 4
But, it's not you gotta say it, I know. 

0:35:17 - Speaker 2
I know, yeah, you gotta say it. 

0:35:19 - Speaker 1
That's scary, but yeah, and I mean so. Going moving on to another sprinkle is like there's cuckolding, right? So cuckolding is where. Cuckolding is where I sleep with another man while he's there. Okay, so, or, and then that's not the way it has to be for everybody. Like sometimes there's hot wifing, where the wife just goes out and does her thing and maybe doesn't tell her partner about it at all, but it's something that they've agreed upon prior. 

0:35:50 - Speaker 2
However, communication yes. 

0:35:51 - Speaker 1
He is. He is very much my comfort and my and my safety. So I was raped when I was younger. So I need to and I think that's part of my control issues, like I feel like I need to be in control. So I think it's rooted deep in that and I just need, I need him there. He makes me feel safe and he just so happens to very much enjoy it. 

0:36:16 - Speaker 2
Yes. 

0:36:17 - Speaker 1
So added bonus. 

0:36:18 - Speaker 2
Right. So just first I want to say whatever turns her on, turns me on, all the off top, like I completely get that, yep, I completely get that energy because she's going somewhere. That is amazing for me, you know. So, man, you're a hell of a man, you're a hell of a man, brother, you're a hell of a man. And also also because I'm submissive does not mean I'm a pushover. 

0:36:43 - Speaker 4
Oh, exactly. 

0:36:45 - Speaker 2
I am her fierce protector. Yes, and he is. I will lay someone down if I need to. They will make. They will know that they've made a mistake, treating her a certain way or hurting her a certain way. It may be a couple of days in the hospital for them, because I will let them know that that is not going to work. 

0:37:05 - Speaker 3
It's in jail for you. 

0:37:07 - Speaker 2
You know what it is, what it is Right Indeed. That's what I'm talking about there is no there is no. Try my friend, there is do. 

0:37:16 - Speaker 3
You know I'm a fan bro, and the more we talk, the more I become a fan man I'm. You know, I study people, I study people. So I love this conversation because it allows me to just open my mind, you know, and just to really really to take the the, the stigmas, the tabloids, the judgment, because you're a hell of a guy B man. I fucks with you, bro. I fucks with you the wrong way. Even with all this right Like that prior I wouldn't. If I was watching this on TV, I'd be like that motherfucker's crazy. But knowing you and fucking with you, I'm like, hold on, I gotta think about this differently now because this is my brother. 

0:37:52 - Speaker 2
Yeah, this is because it's real. It's real, you know, and and at the at, at the absolute end of the day, it's contagious. Right, it's at the. At the absolute end of the day, it's us. Yes, we're not hurting anyone, we're not affecting anyone, it's it's our thing, right, and I'm not going to push it on anybody. So there's a guy here at camp. 

0:38:16 - Speaker 1
Oh my God, the chastity thing scares the living shit out of him. So every time he's Right. 

0:38:23 - Speaker 2
So, yeah. So has has EA told you about the campground that we're at right now? No, Okay, so super quickly. We live in two campers. That's where we live. Okay, One of the campers we're taking salt, the other campers at an adult only campground and it's a lifestyle campground. 

0:38:43 - Speaker 4
Got it. I'll see you now. I got it. I got it and it's clothing optional. It's clothing optional. Okay, I put clothes on for you. 

0:38:53 - Speaker 1
Well, it's different. So I just found this out there was a significant difference between a nudist camp and a lifestyle camp. So, a nudist camp. They believe in being one with nature, and the clothes just creates a barrier between you and the universe. So at nudist camps there's kids, because that's a whole culture right. Oh, I never knew that. Kids, yeah. So I mean, this is something that they believe in. It's almost like a religion in some instances. 

0:39:23 - Speaker 3
Okay, raise the minute. Raise the minute. 

0:39:24 - Speaker 1
Yes, yeah, if you start to get an erection at a nudist camp, you need to remove yourself from the situation, get it under control. It's not allowed when we're at. It's a lifestyle campground and it's basically free reign. 

0:39:42 - Speaker 4
Like people can fuck wherever you want, yeah you can if you want to. There has been. There has been. Not us, Not us. 

0:39:50 - Speaker 3
So, you walk around. Well, fuckers just banging out right there bam, bam bam. 

0:39:54 - Speaker 1
It's interesting the men, it's funny they wear. The men will wear like a t-shirt and sandals but be naked underneath Like I don't understand the t-shirt. 

0:40:04 - Speaker 3
Because he don't want his chest. He ain't got the physique. Now, if he had some showmanship, he'd probably take the shirt off and say fuck it, let's go, let's go, let's go. 

0:40:14 - Speaker 4
I mean, if he's gonna let his man down here slay, you might as well, just show it all. 

0:40:18 - Speaker 3
Lee Right, yeah, okay, it all sounds interesting to me. So that's the catch you guys are on. 

0:40:26 - Speaker 1
It's a fantastic, fantastic group of humans. They're very, for the most part, very non-judgmental, and there's all body shapes and sizes. And I think my favorite part is like the women that I kind of surround myself with and most of the women in this campground are very body positive and they encourage you and make you feel empowered and beautiful in your own skin and it's just a very it's a great group of people who are very so you walking around naked, I mean, I do sometimes not, I'm mostly in my camper because I'm a chicken shit. 

We've only been residents here for five years and every now and then, every now and then I'll flash a friend or two. 

0:41:06 - Speaker 3
Yeah hey, how about you B? How about you sprinkles? You be going around naked, walking around with the shirt and in the flip-flop song. 

0:41:11 - Speaker 2
No, not fucking allowed If he's a honey he can just be happy, hey, hey the bug stops here. So here's the irony in that right. Was it the first weekend we came here? 

0:41:23 - Speaker 1
Was it here or was it when we went to the other campground? 

0:41:25 - Speaker 2
No, because I was down at the beach. 

0:41:27 - Speaker 1
Yeah, I don't think you were naked. You got naked at the other campground? 

0:41:31 - Speaker 2
No, because I had everything but the cage on. I had everything but the cage off and we were sitting down at the beach. And what's his name? Dave, who was parked next to the hunt? 

0:41:42 - Speaker 1
Yeah, our first weekend here. I look over and I see a big hairy man butthole and I was like what the fuck am I doing? I gotta adjust. I mean, he was fully comfortable being absolutely naked and he was doing something on his camper, so he was bed to over and I walked out my door and I just saw hairy butthole and I was like whoo, so what is? 

0:42:01 - Speaker 3
those camp population. I mean the population was 100 people, two people, three. 

0:42:07 - Speaker 2
On a weekend, probably about 100, maybe. 

0:42:10 - Speaker 1
There's probably 100 residents. I mean right now, with the spots they have, there's probably 75 spots for just residents and they're expanding more and then that will be the end of the expansion and then they have a weekend area, a group area. Yeah, why? 

0:42:25 - Speaker 2
not, I swear I wanna come. It's the week. 

0:42:27 - Speaker 4
Well, if you don't mind me asking you don't have to be like. What state is this in? 

0:42:32 - Speaker 1
It's Cushing, Wisconsin. It's called Freedom Valley Campground. Okay, what's the name? And if you look it up, you have to look up because there's another Freedom Valley Campground that's in. 

0:42:40 - Speaker 2
Pennsylvania. 

0:42:41 - Speaker 1
Illinois and it's for gay men only. 

0:42:43 - Speaker 3
Well why are there women allowed? They walk around. They're gonna tool everybody. 

0:42:46 - Speaker 4
Why. 

0:42:47 - Speaker 3
Yeah, the theme song yes, yes, got, it Got it. 

0:42:52 - Speaker 1
But yeah, it's a great. I mean, the community is pretty nice and it's a good place for us to come and record and I do legit massage here. 

0:43:01 - Speaker 4
It's not happy endings yeah, hey how are you? 

0:43:03 - Speaker 3
You think me. Are you asking something. It's very imputing Time to take the question from me. 

0:43:08 - Speaker 1
You're welcome. No happy endings on my massage, is he? Unless something has passed, not even for me? 

0:43:13 - Speaker 3
Yeah, that's true, listen, wisdom he doesn't usually even get a massage. 

0:43:16 - Speaker 1
It's like when you're married to a mechanic and they don't fix your cars. 

0:43:20 - Speaker 2
Yeah, that's real talk. 

0:43:21 - Speaker 1
He will get one tomorrow, though. 

0:43:23 - Speaker 3
That's talk. That's real talk. You know me and my wife go, because I know my wife. I seen her. She was nodding her head and she and her gonna have her own conversation off camera. So I'm gonna come back and have some more questions and you know what I mean. That's going to. I don't want the weather going dry. I want people to be like damn, I can't wait for them to come back. 

0:43:40 - Speaker 1
You're gonna come home one day and find a cock cage on your dresser. 

0:43:43 - Speaker 3
Yeah, and she gonna put it on her. She gonna put it on her. 

0:43:46 - Speaker 1
You know what they got women's stuff. 

0:43:48 - Speaker 3
I don't want to give you that stuff, right, right, because I'm gonna have one of them hot girl nights that she had mentioned. 

0:43:54 - Speaker 4
Yeah, and you want one. I'm gonna do my thing. 

0:43:56 - Speaker 3
Yeah, right, that was, that was, that was Termi on. I'm built differently, so I was like, yeah, and that's the thing, yeah right, it's not for everybody at all. 

0:44:07 - Speaker 2
All your different wiring, your people are wired a different way. 

0:44:10 - Speaker 1
And I don't expect. 

0:44:11 - Speaker 2
I don't expect the things that Termi on to turn other guys on or other like I'm me and I have my specific thing. 

0:44:19 - Speaker 3
And I applaud you because I really have a super newfound respect. I had one the first time we did this. I was like, okay, that's my boy, Now you like my guy bro I just made. I can't wait to meet you in the flesh. Just because, like you're so genuine and real, I know that you would never lie to me. You gonna always keep it 1000 with me Because, bro, you gave me that If you give me that. 

That's the most fucking personable thing you can do. If you can keep it real with your intimacy part and ain't nothing else to it, the relationship is solidified, brother. I just want you to know that 100%. 

0:44:53 - Speaker 1
Well, and it's interesting too, because when people interact with me for the podcast and things like that, a lot of them will come to me and they've had very long-term marriages and they're looking for something to spice up To spice it up. Yeah, To spice it up. So I'm not saying chastity, I'm not saying chastity specifically, or even but we also participate in, like, I will flog him. What's flogging? And flogging is like oh, I can't reach it. 

0:45:22 - Speaker 3
You gotta really talk to us like we eight-year-olds or me, I should. 

0:45:26 - Speaker 1
So it's an implement. It's got leather strings that hang out. 

0:45:31 - Speaker 2
It's like a whip. Yeah, it's kind of. 

0:45:33 - Speaker 1
It's got lots of little, but here's the thing. It's actually quite therapeutic. 

0:45:37 - Speaker 2
It is. 

0:45:38 - Speaker 1
It took me a really long time to get on board with this, but the rhythm and the tapping like. I'm not always doing it to inflict pain. I sure do inflict pain, but it's a lot of the rhythm of it and the tapping is like therapeutic. 

0:45:54 - Speaker 4
It's like TMS therapy for people that are just kids. 

0:45:56 - Speaker 1
Yes, Yep, and you can get muscles to release, like his tight muscles can release, and it allows him to get out of his own head and I mean he likes, he doesn't like the pain. I think that's a misconception. 

0:46:10 - Speaker 2
I don't much care for it, but what happens is in those instances, again it goes back to the real emotional thing that we talked about in pegging. There's an emotional thing, right, because again I know that she's turned on while doing this. You know, it took a little while for her to get to the place where she because I'm her provider, I'm the man that loves her deeply and all these things, and why on earth would I hurt him? You know that's what her thought was until she figured out kind of my side of it. 

0:46:42 - Speaker 1
I actually had him do it to me. 

0:46:44 - Speaker 2
That's it. 

0:46:45 - Speaker 1
And then I realized kind of how it felt and what it was like. And then it was like game on, it was game on. 

0:46:51 - Speaker 3
Hey, I like that. I like your strategies. Try it out, then game on. 

0:46:56 - Speaker 2
Yep, we were a little more active over last winter with it, not so much since then, which is fine. It's a season, it comes and goes and that's fine. But there was a specific time where we went through the whole they call it a scene, I think that's kind of a weird word to use for it but it's the moment that we had doing that and she had gone to town on me really good, like really powerful, and then she, we figured out that I need a moment afterwards, you know, I need to just lay there and just kind of both soak it in and just kind of just feel it, not physically but just emotionally feel it, and I felt tears coming out of my eyes, oh shit, but not from pain. 

I was overwhelmed with the emotion of it. It was such a I was. I had never, ever ever felt that I'd never I'd had that situation in my life before with previous women. But I'd not really had that moment, and it was so significant. 

0:48:09 - Speaker 1
And I don't like hit him in bail. I mean I'm there, you know, touching him and I lay there with him. 

0:48:16 - Speaker 3
It's not like okay let me beat the shit out of you with this vlogger. And then I'm just, I'm out. Ain't I talking bad to him, motherfucker, bam. You ain't going to say, you know, I'm gonna. Yeah. 

0:48:24 - Speaker 1
I mean, I still struggle with the humiliation aspect of things. I'm getting much better with it, but he enjoys that as well. 

0:48:31 - Speaker 3
So I mean, like that you like to say, yeah, motherfucker, take this in your ass. Yes, yes, okay. 

0:48:38 - Speaker 2
Yeah, to an extent yeah. 

0:48:39 - Speaker 3
Yeah. 

0:48:39 - Speaker 2
Okay, okay, and it's like I said, it's our thing and it all comes from communication. It's always, always, always, always comes back to it's gotta be communicated. We have to talk this out, and when we do something and something doesn't go quite right, we need to talk it out, you know. Or if something wants, if something needs to be a little bit different, or whatever needs to be talked out, or you're not feeling it anymore, that needs to be talked out. All of it, always with the talking, always, always, always. 

0:49:12 - Speaker 1
And how are y'all been in? 

0:49:13 - Speaker 3
relationship. 

0:49:15 - Speaker 1
We have been together for nine years. We will be married for seven years this New Year's Eve. Okay, well, man. 

0:49:21 - Speaker 2
And this has been kind of part of us, or evolving as part of us, from day one almost. 

0:49:27 - Speaker 4
You did say that you met in a situation like that. 

0:49:31 - Speaker 1
So we met online and I started chatting with him and, like the first week we started chatting, we hadn't even met yet, but he was at a place in his life where I'm done fucking around, this is what I want, and if this doesn't work for you, then this isn't going to work for us. 

0:49:48 - Speaker 2
Like one of the first, yep, one of the first. I don't wanna waste anybody's time. 

0:49:52 - Speaker 1
Yeah, one of the first things he said was I'm not moving. We were two hours apart at the time and I'm like that's not a problem, I'll move. And then the second thing he said is that. 

0:50:01 - Speaker 2
Let me qualify that. I wasn't not to be a dick, but I had promised my kids and my kids had been through the divorce with their mom and I and they've been through a lot of instability in the previous couple of years before I met Christine and I said I am not going anywhere, I am not moving until you graduate. That is my promise to you and we've been through that. 

0:50:26 - Speaker 1
My kids didn't really have a great relationship with their dad and he was in a bad place in his life and I was willing to put in the effort to meet halfway but he didn't really see them a lot anyway and we were kind of looking for a new start and getting out of whatever the case was. But from day one, the first time he hugged me, I was like, oh my God, this is my husband. I have always trusted him. I have always like I mean, we were two hours away and he had had history and I knew of this history of him being unfaithful and whatever. And he, from day one, had always been honest with me. I mean, even when we first started dating. He's like I'm kind of seeing this other chick and I'm like, that's fine, do your thing. And he, you know whatever. He called me back like a half hour later. He's like I couldn't do it. 

0:51:13 - Speaker 2
Nope, that's done why. 

0:51:15 - Speaker 1
He's like I did, why I feel it's done. 

0:51:17 - Speaker 2
That's done, let's talk. 

0:51:19 - Speaker 1
Yeah, so I mean we've always had this connection, Like I really I tell him all the time like I think I was made for him. 

0:51:26 - Speaker 2
Like I think that you know, and I'm always of the mindset that I do not deserve this woman. I just don't. You know it's. It's so everything that she gives me. I don't deserve it, but I treat her in a way that shows that. 

0:51:44 - Speaker 3
It's an action work. 

0:51:45 - Speaker 2
Love is an action work. 

0:51:46 - Speaker 3
So, my brother, do you ever get mad at her? 

0:51:53 - Speaker 2
I'll tell you. It's interesting. I would say yes. 

0:51:56 - Speaker 1
No, frustrated, maybe not mad. I think it gets frustrated with me sometimes. 

0:52:01 - Speaker 2
Yeah, At absolute most. I have gotten frustrated maybe a handful of times. 

0:52:05 - Speaker 1
It's mostly been related to Ocean Tree Creative and my lack of doing the things that he knows I'm capable of doing, and I have the imposter syndrome I feel like I can't do it. So his frustration comes from love. 

0:52:18 - Speaker 3
Yes. 

0:52:19 - Speaker 1
But he's never. I mean, I think he's only yelled at me one time and that was it was had to do with our kids. Yeah, I mean blending a family is very hard. Yeah, You're very you're very for your kids and when you have two other parents that are involved in things, that gets tempted me, and that was like one time. 

0:52:39 - Speaker 3
One time yeah. And you guys got a nice relationship and I'm glad we were here to just share the moments and I was just a snapshot. I was pretty much a snapshot, but I can kind of fill in the gaps myself because I'm a visual person. Me too. I got the ice cream and the samples forever. Like every time I talk to you for now on B, that's always gonna be in my head the sprinkles and the ice cream. And I'm sure I'm gonna be back again and we're gonna do this again. 

Right, 100%. So how can the people follow you? If people are interested in knowing more how to get involved with you, how can they follow you? Right now I'll tell you Wait a minute. 

0:53:18 - Speaker 1
We should be pumping your podcast. 

0:53:19 - Speaker 2
Yeah, we'll get to that too. 

0:53:20 - Speaker 3
We will we will, we will, but this I'm telling you I was here for you. This was your show, so I want the people to know how they can get it, cause there's probably more questions other than yeah. We just looked over the next episode because I still got questions. Perfect, we'll mess around and be in for two or three hours Right now, yeah. 

0:53:41 - Speaker 1
So we should totally do this once a month for sure. That would be so fun. That's good. I love that. 

0:53:45 - Speaker 3
Consistency is key, so if you really wanna get the word out and you wanna build your network in this, I strongly recommend we do this once a month and it gives us perspective too. 

0:53:58 - Speaker 4
I must keep it steady here, yeah cause I definitely I'm gonna go say that, but I have to because we keep it in real here. My husband and I have been together intimately or what I call that sexually, since we were teenagers, right. And so now that we're adults and I'm transitioning with the period of menopause and, just you know, my next life that's coming up, I gotta get my husband out of bed. Okay, because when my body lays in the bed, I'm ready to go to sleep. When he is body lays in the bed, he ready to get busy, and so we keep hitting and missing. But we have so much house and opportunities, so I'm trying to open his mind to let him know we can be into the inquiry. We don't, it just doesn't get in the bedroom. 

So, yes, we're gonna definitely have to come back and do some chit-chat and chill. I would love that. 

0:54:46 - Speaker 3
Yes, you guys just definitely stimulated just the conversation. I can tell the way she said that I might get some right here and there. Here and there, oh yeah, look at the polluter veins. So it's going. Who's there? 

0:55:01 - Speaker 1
Well, I'm not opposed to watching. You may not want to do that with the camera on. Yeah, yeah. 

0:55:05 - Speaker 3
Oh. 

0:55:05 - Speaker 2
Oh. 

0:55:08 - Speaker 3
Hey, what are you having a schedule at? 

0:55:10 - Speaker 4
Put on a show. Hey, I'm trying to get my money, hey, hey. 

0:55:14 - Speaker 1
Wait, let me get my dollars. I'll throw them at the camera. Yeah, sure, I'm gonna get it. 

0:55:19 - Speaker 3
I'm gonna get the money. 

0:55:21 - Speaker 4
What the hell is somebody? 

0:55:22 - Speaker 3
doing no, call us no. This is a great time. This is the moment to plug out. No, just call us on. 

0:55:27 - Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That means we have to go live. You gotta stay live, yeah yeah. 

0:55:35 - Speaker 3
You know what I was talking to, jason, about putting a video component. They should A video component, you should add that to it. And the option is still paying for the time. But give people an opportunity to do the video, because just this segment alone video paying for the time it could make sense. 

0:55:51 - Speaker 2
Yeah, there's something there for that for sure. 

0:55:53 - Speaker 1
OK, wait, we got it. We're getting off track, oh yeah. We're not the only one with ADD. 

0:55:58 - Speaker 3
OK, so wait, I don't go anywhere. You want to go? I can chun chun. 

0:56:01 - Speaker 1
Yeah, so first you tell us how people can listen to your podcast, because I think that your guys' podcast I mean EA we've kind of pumped you, but you should do that. Pump that again too. But tell me more about your guys' podcast and where people can find you. 

0:56:16 - Speaker 3
If they want to Just give me analyze this topic. It's all one word Google it Go to YouTube. I would say YouTube is my most prominent and I haven't reached a million views on that stuff yet, so that's what's stopping me from putting out season three. I have some season three footage that I'm wearing, but I'm just so like I'm so my ego. 

0:56:36 - Speaker 2
I'll be real, we're going to put your ego to the top. 

0:56:38 - Speaker 3
No, no no, I know what I'm doing. I know, but I know what I'm doing, though I think I'm very strategic with this when I tell the story later. There's a method to the madness. I want to get that to a million views so I can really go in and really, because I've already negotiated contracts I've had distribution contracts with the show already. So Nice, youtube is where I would strongly recommend anyone that want to follow me and my wife's story. We got Meet the Allens on there and it's just. It's been a phenomenal journey. We talked about infidelity, we talked about stability, we talked about infidelity while going through infidelity. 

0:57:11 - Speaker 4
That's what makes it real. Yeah, yeah. 

0:57:14 - Speaker 3
Yeah, and then still being together, like we still together now. So there's a lot more to the story that you know. There's still, like you know, people are waiting for that next, people that really follow what they're really waiting for. I'm just, I'm being strategic with the next run of this. You know what I mean. 

0:57:29 - Speaker 2
Plus I want to tell me to get myself together. 

0:57:30 - Speaker 3
That's just being honest so sure, yeah, sure. I'm back, I'm ready, and now that I've got you know Ocean Tree Creative like as a teammate. Hey, it's going to come sooner than later. Sooner than later, let's go. 

0:57:43 - Speaker 2
I love it, let's go. 

0:57:44 - Speaker 3
Yeah. 

0:57:44 - Speaker 2
And we'll put. We'll put links to all your stuff in the show notes. 

0:57:47 - Speaker 1
And a link to your work. 

0:57:48 - Speaker 2
We'll link to all the things, all the things. 

0:57:51 - Speaker 1
Bitly for your book. Yeah, for your book. 

0:57:52 - Speaker 3
Tricles. I'll fuck with you, bro. I'll fuck with you. My brother, I'll fuck with you. Hey, that's our insight. I'll never say that around other people, because that won't, that won't work for a few. 

0:58:02 - Speaker 2
I got it. 

0:58:03 - Speaker 3
I got a man's giggle Right. No, no, no. 

0:58:05 - Speaker 2
I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it Anytime we on the show. 

0:58:08 - Speaker 3
You sprinkles. When I say sprinkles, man, that's you, that's you? 

0:58:11 - Speaker 2
Yeah, I love it, I love it. 

0:58:13 - Speaker 1
And I love that you guys took the time to come on the show. I love the questions. Absolutely Just amazing chatting with you. You guys both have fantastic energy. I love it so much. 

0:58:21 - Speaker 3
Can't wait to meet you guys in the flesh too. 

0:58:23 - Speaker 1
For sure. 

0:58:24 - Speaker 3
Yeah, it's going to be one of those missions. 

0:58:26 - Speaker 4
Yes, and I'm glad you definitely tugged me because again I was in my own world, Plus I work from home. So you know I'm by myself, Sure, and I'll get up. And I'll get ready to go lay down. 

0:58:37 - Speaker 3
Right. I mean, it really makes sense to my wife. I just put it like that. They make sense to her. I have to make it make sense. I, like many, just trust me on this one. This is for us. 

0:58:46 - Speaker 4
No, I'm blessing all of you? 

0:58:48 - Speaker 3
Yeah, for sure, this is amazing. I love it and thank you. 

0:58:51 - Speaker 1
Yes, we definitely have to redo this. I would love to do it again. Yeah, I would love to have you guys. 

0:58:57 - Speaker 3
Yeah, we're making a monthly quarterly something. We'll just do it. Yeah, it's like when you're building something, you have to do it like that. Once it's good, it's a none Uh-huh, yes, right. 

0:59:08 - Speaker 1
So, yeah, let's go. That's awesome. Well, I appreciate your time on a. 

0:59:12 - Speaker 4
It is Saturday right, yeah, it's Saturday. Oh, I forgot. Yeah, I forgot, I got something to do. 

0:59:17 - Speaker 3
I got to take my son somewhere. So yeah, yeah, OK. 

0:59:19 - Speaker 1
Well, thank you very much, I appreciate it and we will chat soon about when we can have you guys back up. Sounds good. 

0:59:25 - Speaker 3
You let us know, Be be, let me know whenever you're ready, We'll, we'll schedule it out and and we ready. Man, you know what I'm saying. 

0:59:32 - Speaker 2
I will do that. Awesome. I will do that. Thank you so, so, so so much. 

0:59:35 - Speaker 3
Happy. 

0:59:35 - Speaker 2
Saturday Take care. 

0:59:37 - Speaker 1
Yes, happy Saturday. See you for self-care Sunday. 

0:59:39 - Speaker 3
Yes Peace.